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Dave K. 05-09-2012 12:00 PM

Why did you build a Cobra instead of a Cheetah?
 
Didn't want to high jack the Cobra thread, but what about the Cheetah? If you are a Chevy guy, wouldn't you build the Cheetah, so you wouldn't have to run the "wrong" motor in it?

DansYellow66 05-09-2012 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Dave K. (Post 1580767203)
Didn't want to high jack the Cobra thread, but what about the Cheetah? If you are a Chevy guy, wouldn't you build the Cheetah, so you wouldn't have to run the "wrong" motor in it?

Reason 1 - few people know what a Cheetah is and would recognize it.

Reason 2 - if I get a little rambunctious and punch the throttle a little two much I prefer to spin out of control in slower rotations than lightning fast rotations.

Reason 3 - although differentials are not prone to blowing up, I somehow don't want to sit virtually on top of one when driving the car. However, both have the transmission right there at your thigh.

Reason 4 - although a Cobra is pretty crude in terms of creature comfort, it beats a Cheetah by a ways for street use.

JohnZ 05-09-2012 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dave K. (Post 1580767203)
Didn't want to high jack the Cobra thread, but what about the Cheetah? If you are a Chevy guy, wouldn't you build the Cheetah, so you wouldn't have to run the "wrong" motor in it?

Probably because the Cheetah is the only car on the planet that's more impractical than a Cobra. :D

jrm5657 05-09-2012 01:53 PM

Bob Auxier out in Phoenix is building the Cheetahs, actually has the molds and jigs up for sale, and has the original aluminum super Cheetah also which is larger than the early originals. As stated previously, the rear end, half shafts, and drive shaft is wrapped around your butt when sitting in the seat. I don't know if I could get in and out of one, they have tiny doors and you have to fall into the seat. Cool cars!!!

Kerrmudgeon 05-09-2012 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by JohnZ (Post 1580768387)
Probably because the Cheetah is the only car on the planet that's more impractical than a Cobra. :D

:iagree: Just ask anyone who's raced them! Totally squirrely to drive. When they lost it in a corner they were impossible to recover. :willy:

narlee 05-09-2012 02:03 PM

Time to get started. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Repli...item4d00c0f287

JohnZ 05-09-2012 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by jrm5657 (Post 1580768429)
Bob Auxier out in Phoenix is building the Cheetahs, actually has the molds and jigs up for sale

He seems to have some issues..... :ack:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/cheetahca...topic=121&st=0

Dan Hampton 05-09-2012 02:31 PM

If memory serves, the whole Cheetah replica issue--going back a number of years--has had some major problems. The link that John Z provided is just a continuation of that theme.

Jerry Titus, who drove the Cheetah on occasion, one said: "it is the most perfectly balanced sports car in the world.....because once you go into a spin, it seems like it will never stop rotating....."

One of the reason that the interest was never there--relative to the Cobra--is that they had no racing provenance (read: history); if you ever see one in the flesh, the design is quirky, to say the least; it was built as a "skunk works" project with Bill Thomas as GM's stalking horse with a production of under 30 cars. Dubbed the "Cobra Killer" it was highly undeveloped and little known to the general public. No match for Shelby on any level.

kenmo 05-09-2012 02:39 PM

But the Cobra is cooler.... :-)

LouieM 05-09-2012 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by JohnZ (Post 1580768387)
Probably because the Cheetah is the only car on the planet that's more impractical than a Cobra. :D

Also, it is said that "Cheetahs never prosper"... :lol:

DansYellow66 05-09-2012 08:28 PM

Also, I'm not just a Chev guy. I love any of the big 3 muscle cars. Ford FE motors can scream and have a lot of history behind them. A lot of people have forgotten what it was like when Ford went 1,2 and 3 with 427 Ford GTs back in the 60s. That gave Ferrari somegthing to think about. I'm building a FE Cobra replica and have a Ford Lightning; and I also have a 1967 440 GTX - so I have the big 3 bases covered with my 427 Corvette. I would sure love to have a Hemi in my GTX but I guess that is something to dream for. Wouldn't mind having a W-30 442, or a Ram Air IV GTO, or a Stage 1 Buick GS, or a 409 Impala, or a Cobra Jet Mustang either.

62Jeff 05-09-2012 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by DansYellow66 (Post 1580768306)
Reason 2 - if I get a little rambunctious and punch the throttle a little two much I prefer to spin out of control in slower rotations than lightning fast rotations.


Originally Posted by DansYellow66 (Post 1580771909)
Also, I'm not just a Chev guy. I love any of the big 3 muscle cars.

Two awesome answers :thumbs:

redvetracr 05-09-2012 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by JohnZ (Post 1580768536)
He seems to have some issues..... :ack:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/cheetahca...topic=121&st=0

I wonder how he keeps a 100% feedback rating on ebay?

Hitch 05-09-2012 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by JohnZ (Post 1580768387)
Probably because the Cheetah is the only car on the planet that's more impractical than a Cobra. :D

This....

The market for them is not there so once you build one it is YOURS....

Lou64 05-10-2012 08:30 PM

Cheetahs are pretty.

Pretty ugly.:lol:

DansYellow66 05-11-2012 08:40 PM

Who can't love motor that looks like this?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1010155.jpg

Maybe not any cooler than a 427 Chev tri-power - but pretty impressive.

and then put it in an all independent suspension car that is only 13 ft long and weighs 2600 to 2700 lbs.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1010040.jpg

It always struck me as a perfect recepie for fun. But I'm not giving up my 427 Corvette by any means. I'll always have it. :thumbs:

silverslashstreak 05-11-2012 11:50 PM

Looking good Dan. :thumbs:

427435 05-12-2012 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by JohnZ (Post 1580768387)
Probably because the Cheetah is the only car on the planet that's more impractical than a Cobra. :D

So true!!!

Hitch 05-12-2012 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by DansYellow66 (Post 1580789654)
Who can't love motor that looks like this?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1010155.jpg

Maybe not any cooler than a 427 Chev tri-power - but pretty impressive.

and then put it in an all independent suspension car that is only 13 ft long and weighs 2600 to 2700 lbs.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1010040.jpg

It always struck me as a perfect recepie for fun. But I'm not giving up my 427 Corvette by any means. I'll always have it. :thumbs:

2600 to 2700 lbs... you seem a little heavy the one I had only weighed 2200 lbs...

DansYellow66 05-12-2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Hitch (Post 1580791380)
2600 to 2700 lbs... you seem a little heavy the one I had only weighed 2200 lbs...

ERAs run about 100 to 125 lbs heavier than the original Cobra with an FE iron block/head motor. Most of the extra weight is in the heavier gage steel in the frame and then the fiberglass body weights more than aluminum.

The original 427 Cobra Street and S/C never weighed close to 2200 lbs with the usual iron block/head FE engine and iron toploader transmision. If you have hoisted a toploader, it makes a Muncie feel petite by comparison. Some of the aluminum body, alloy suspension Kirkham Cobras with all-aluminum FE engines are in the 2200 lb range. Small block, aluminum head, FFR replicas can get down into that range too. :thumbs:


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