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el es tu 11-30-2012 08:50 AM

C7 rear
 
does anyone else think the rear of the c7 will look more like a c6 with the bpp diffuser (the one sold for stock c6 exhausts) than what the renderings have made it out to be?

The rear spoiler looks very close to that of the c6 and the taillights are apparently going to be round... I wonder if the bumper is going to be a flat as it was in the pictures

It seems that the car the jalopnick people were shown was intentionally let out as a way to disseminate bad information...

John T 11-30-2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by el es tu (Post 1582451704)
does anyone else think the rear of the c7 will look more like a c6 with the bpp diffuser (the one sold for stock c6 exhausts) than what the renderings have made it out to be?

The rear spoiler looks very close to that of the c6 and the taillights are apparently going to be round... I wonder if the bumper is going to be a flat as it was in the pictures

It seems that the car the jalopnick people were shown was intentionally let out as a way to disseminate bad information...


I see it differently.

Have you seen the keeksCAD ? That is the back of the C7.

el es tu 11-30-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by John T (Post 1582451766)
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I see it differently.

Have you seen the keeksCAD ? That is the back of the C7.

:ack:I would be surprised if the finished car looked like that...

John T 11-30-2012 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by el es tu (Post 1582451855)
:ack:I would be surprised if the finished car looked like that...

el es tu , Take a peek at the rear fascia of the Ferrari 458 and look at the black around the tailights , the positioning of the exhaust and the surrounding lower bodywork.
I believe GM took cues from this "look".

BlueOx 11-30-2012 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by el es tu (Post 1582451855)
:ack:I would be surprised if the finished car looked like that...

Better get used to it. Keeks even said the C&D version was "it". Everything points to it being like that from Jalopnik to Omega to Keeks to C&D. The only question in my mind are the fine details.

not08crmanymore 11-30-2012 09:22 AM

When I see it,I'll let you know.:thumbs:

el es tu 11-30-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by John T (Post 1582451892)
el es tu , Take a peek at the rear fascia of the Ferrari 458 and look at the black around the tailights , the positioning of the exhaust and the surrounding lower bodywork.
I believe GM took cues from this "look".

:iagree: toward the lower rear it seems very 458-ish


Originally Posted by BlueOx (Post 1582451897)
Better get used to it. Keeks even said the C&D version was "it". Everything points to it being like that from Jalopnik to Omega to Keeks to C&D. The only question in my mind are the fine details.

The way the bumper is cut straight inward midway down and then has those flat sections is enough to push me away from buying a c7 and just getting a second c6 (imo the shape of the rear of the c6 is the best looking on any car out there). Maybe a nice used z07 or zr1 will be in a better price range in 2 years...

:cheers:

BuckyThreadkiller 11-30-2012 09:52 AM

I think some of the renderings we've seen - Trinity, CD, Jalopnik are missing it on the back.

They have the back glass as almost a square sheet. I think it'll taper at the decklid opening and line up visually with the quadrangle on the license plate surround and the exhaust area below that.

Also everybody shows some sort of housing around the tailights. Maybe, but it could be body color.

I tweaked one of Trinity's frames - I'm a little rusty on my quick and dirty Photoshop skills -

http://www.holmesontherange.com/buck...Trinity-C7.jpg

Larry/car 11-30-2012 10:01 AM

I think you nailed it!!! Pretty much matches every thing we have seen and general outline on camo cars.

BlueOx 11-30-2012 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller (Post 1582452150)
I think some of the renderings we've seen - Trinity, CD, Jalopnik are missing it on the back.

They have the back glass as almost a square sheet. I think it'll taper at the decklid opening and line up visually with the quadrangle on the license plate surround and the exhaust area below that.

Also everybody shows some sort of housing around the tailights. Maybe, but it could be body color.

I tweaked one of Trinity's frames - I'm a little rusty on my quick and dirty Photoshop skills -

http://www.holmesontherange.com/buck...Trinity-C7.jpg

There is a lot 'missing' about this version of the C7. I agree the hatch glass will taper.

As much as I agree about the tail light housings, I am pretty convinced that those tail light housings will not be body colored from the factory. I mean, why bother making them that shape unless you are highlighting them? Give it a few months and guys will be painting them body color and buying faux carbon fiber versions of them, just like the GS logo.

The vertical 'lights' at each side of the back end of this image are actually vents. The spy shots and Keeks CADs confirm that.

Larry/car 11-30-2012 10:10 AM

I think the rendering is missing the double ridge on the front fenders, it runs aft of the headlights. There is evidence of this in one of the engine bay photos.

BlueOx 11-30-2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Larry/car (Post 1582452312)
I think the rendering is missing the double ridge on the front fenders, it runs aft of the headlights. There is evidence of this in one of the engine bay photos.

I think we may find that is just an anomaly of the CAD image. I would find it hard to imagine that kind of fender line.

Paulchristian 11-30-2012 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by el es tu (Post 1582451855)
:ack:I would be surprised if the finished car looked like that...

Me too. I still find it hard to believe that the lights on Keeks CAD drawing are accurate. I am sure GM made hundreds of CAD drawing with multiple rear end treatments, the one keeks provided may be one of them but who's to say it is THE one.

The rear lights (the shape they appeared to be as the lights shined through) on the latest video as the car was driving away from the camera, do not look like the photo keeks provided.

And I still believe keeks was leaked that CAD drawing for a reason...yeah I said it. I find it a little hard to believe a leak of that magnitude just happens...

Having said all this, and I am not a big fan of these videos GM is providing us, but this latest video has perked my attention; specifically the part where the engineer is discussing the steering and overall driving feel. One negative about the C5 and C6 IMO is that they are very difficult to drive fast. At speed, they don't make me feel confident. The car itself is very capable but I feel you need to be almost a professional driver in order to feel confident that you are not going to kill yourself in a vette.

If the C7 engineers have figured out a way to give me Porsche GT3 steering feel coupled with the always impressive corvette HP numbers, the C7 will be a huge hit and I will be waiting in line with some of you no matter the taillight treatment.

Paulchristian 11-30-2012 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by el es tu (Post 1582451969)
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looking on any car out there). Maybe a nice used z07 or zr1 will be in a better price range in 2 years...

:cheers:

:iagree: If the C7 doesn't do it for me, C6 ZO7 or C6 ZR1 is exactly the direction I am going.

el es tu 11-30-2012 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Paulchristian (Post 1582452543)
Having said all this, and I am not a big fan of these videos GM is providing us, but this latest video has perked my attention; specifically the part where the engineer is discussing the steering and overall driving feel. One negative about the C5 and C6 IMO is that they are very difficult to drive fast. At speed, they don't make me feel confident. The car itself is very capable but I feel you need to be almost a professional driver in order to feel confident that you are not going to kill yourself in a vette.

If the C7 engineers have figured out a way to give me Porsche GT3 steering feel coupled with the always impressive corvette HP numbers, the C7 will be a huge hit and I will be waiting in line with some of you no matter the taillight treatment.

aftermarket suspension components (poly bushings or all metal bearings) and better tires go a long way for that. I dont understand why american car companies tend to make their cars feel so disconnected... I remember driving an fbody for the first time and wondering what was messed up to make the car feel that way...

Paulchristian 11-30-2012 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by el es tu (Post 1582452657)
aftermarket suspension components (poly bushings or all metal bearings) and better tires go a long way for that. I dont understand why american car companies tend to make their cars feel so disconected... I remember driving an fbody for the first time and wondering what was messed up to make the car feel that way...

good to know in case I go the C6 ZO7/ZR1 route. I just am not too fond of modding $90k+ cars....

CRABBYJ 11-30-2012 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by BlueOx (Post 1582452365)
I think we may find that is just an anomaly of the CAD image. I would find it hard to imagine that kind of fender line.

Then explain this.
http://strumors.automobilemag.com/fi...1-1024x640.jpg

Suggesting this from the StingRay Concept.
http://risingcar.com/wp-content/uplo...op-852x861.jpg

But I agree that is a long shot and the C7 could be camouflaged to look that way on purpose.:flag:

But then again that look does pop up in other Cads and Camos.:flag:

red2012 11-30-2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by blueox (Post 1582451897)
better get used to it. Keeks even said the c&d version was "it". Everything points to it being like that from jalopnik to omega to keeks to c&d. The only question in my mind are the fine details.

just one very hypothetical situation; should the c7 not resemble or is a little different than jalopnlk, keeks, c&d whoever, is their credibility shot on this forum? Blue ox you seem dead set and believe every word and picture they say and use that this is the car. I hope for their sake and yours (not mine though) that this is the car.

tuxnharley 11-30-2012 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller (Post 1582452150)
I think some of the renderings we've seen - Trinity, CD, Jalopnik are missing it on the back.

They have the back glass as almost a square sheet. I think it'll taper at the decklid opening and line up visually with the quadrangle on the license plate surround and the exhaust area below that.

Also everybody shows some sort of housing around the tailights. Maybe, but it could be body color.

I tweaked one of Trinity's frames - I'm a little rusty on my quick and dirty Photoshop skills -

http://www.holmesontherange.com/buck...Trinity-C7.jpg

That's better......................... especially without the "KISS" eye shadow around the tail lights! :ack:

John T 11-30-2012 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Paulchristian (Post 1582452543)
Me too. I still find it hard to believe that the lights on Keeks CAD drawing are accurate. I am sure GM made hundreds of CAD drawing with multiple rear end treatments, the one keeks provided may be one of them but who's to say it is THE one.

The rear lights (the shape they appeared to be as the lights shined through) on the latest video as the car was driving away from the camera, do not look like the photo keeks provided.

And I still believe keeks was leaked that CAD drawing for a reason...yeah I said it. I find it a little hard to believe a leak of that magnitude just happens...

Having said all this, and I am not a big fan of these videos GM is providing us, but this latest video has perked my attention; specifically the part where the engineer is discussing the steering and overall driving feel. One negative about the C5 and C6 IMO is that they are very difficult to drive fast. At speed, they don't make me feel confident. The car itself is very capable but I feel you need to be almost a professional driver in order to feel confident that you are not going to kill yourself in a vette.

If the C7 engineers have figured out a way to give me Porsche GT3 steering feel coupled with the always impressive corvette HP numbers,
the C7 will be a huge hit and I will be waiting in line with some of you no matter the taillight treatment.

If this happens I would recommend they be "Knighted" by the Queen of England :D


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