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02' vette 04-22-2013 05:03 PM

Gen V Viper close to the 10's
 

The launch control seems to work well with good tires...

speedlink 04-22-2013 05:10 PM

And it still can't beat a 2012 ZR1. Just wait until C7 ZR1 is introduced.

Racer 04-22-2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by 02' vette (Post 1583709229)
2013 SRT Viper Drag Racing 1/4 Mile Launch Control runs 11.1 @ 127.3 MPH - YouTube

The launch control seems to work well with good tires...

C6ZR1 close to the 9's, so what?

Redline Motorsports 04-22-2013 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by 02' vette (Post 1583709229)
2013 SRT Viper Drag Racing 1/4 Mile Launch Control runs 11.1 @ 127.3 MPH - YouTube

The launch control seems to work well with good tires...

We where there all day for that......it took 30 passes to get that number.....

HT

RC000E 04-22-2013 05:13 PM

yeah...the early preliminary tests of the viper don't tell the whole story. That was an early pre-production car...they are faster with a good setup and proper tire.

Just anxious to see how Corvette answers...

Racer 04-22-2013 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by RC000E (Post 1583709316)
yeah...the early preliminary tests of the viper don't tell the whole story. That was an early pre-production car...they are faster with a good setup and proper tire.

Just anxious to see how Corvette answers...

How they answer? LOL! They answered over 4 years ago with a car that does 10.6X at over 130 MPH ALL STOCK!
:rofl:

Kappa 04-22-2013 05:19 PM

Looks like a press car. Have these hit the street yet?

Great looking car.

That would easily be in the 10's if it were at a fast track like MIR. If its putting down 550+whp its definitely making the power.

I wouldn't worry about the Corvette matching it though. GM has more than enough firepower.

02' vette 04-22-2013 05:21 PM

Yea the time is really not all that impressive. I thought the launch control at 5,500 rpm was what was pretty cool.

If it works that good on the street, it would be a cool feature.

Why did it take so many runs? What were all the other ones?

FikseGTS 04-22-2013 06:51 PM

negative, 19 total passes... that was number 10 @ 10:20 am....





Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports (Post 1583709311)
We where there all day for that......it took 30 passes to get that number.....

HT


Redline Motorsports 04-22-2013 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by FikseGTS (Post 1583710082)
negative, 19 total passes... that was number 10 @ 10:20 am....

My point was the car was a turd for all the hype. You guys drove the balls off of it and it is what it is.. 30...15.... Whatever... That car should run 10.80s if they want to step it up

FikseGTS 04-22-2013 08:37 PM

not enough torque to pull through 1st gear without bogging...

I don't know about all the hype, SRT considers it a mid 11's car... and the ZR1's out there weren't doing any better that I saw....







Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports (Post 1583710780)
My point was the car was a turd for all the hype. You guys drove the balls off of it and it is what it is.. 30...15.... Whatever... That car should run 10.80s if they want to step it up


Redline Motorsports 04-22-2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by FikseGTS (Post 1583711001)
not enough torque to pull through 1st gear without bogging...

I don't know about all the hype, SRT considers it a mid 11's car... and the ZR1's out there weren't doing any better that I saw....

Brook don't take it personally. Just again saying the expectation of that car was it was going to be a much faster car.

Not sure which other ZRs you where referring to that weren't running well. Ours was going high 9's and that gray one can't drive. I've seen quite a few stock ZR's , with the right driver, run 10.9x

FikseGTS 04-22-2013 09:47 PM

not personal at all, while we were thinking we could get into the 10's with it, I'm just saying I don't think the car was hyped to be an easy 10 second car....

This gray one?



2nd run he matched the Viper's 60' time but still didn't run well...



Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports (Post 1583711518)
Brook don't take it personally. Just again saying the expectation of that car was it was going to be a much faster car.

Not sure which other ZRs you where referring to that weren't running well. Ours was going high 9's and that gray one can't drive. I've seen quite a few stock ZR's , with the right driver, run 10.9x


FikseGTS 04-22-2013 09:50 PM

This is a twin turbo or supercharged ZR1?


Kyle Lemish 04-23-2013 10:43 AM

Just for good fair comparison sake........I ran a full day at MIR back in 2011 with DA at a best of 1000 positive to 1400 positive in the afternoon.

Even at the worst air of the day I was able to run consistant 10.8x at over 130 on almost every pass. Even cracked a 10.79@ 131 with drag times saying DA of +1250.

This was my first time out on my (at the time) new wheel and tire combo which has proven to be pretty optimal for stock ZR1's.

I would like to know the specs of the tires used on the viper?

I used a set of DR's that were too tall on the ZR1 for a while and id did hurt ET somewhat but trap speeds were all still in excess of 130, So in a mexico style race with equal drivers I do believe the ZR1 will easily prevail!:D so Im told the driver of that viper is pretty d@mn good, so judging from the data supplied we all know its a drivers race, but IMHO the ZR1 will edge the viper with equal drivers and conditions.:rock:

Way to go GM! Now Give us a 700 HP C7 ZR1 so I can head for the 9's all stock:hide:

FikseGTS 04-23-2013 11:01 AM

the extra 90 ft-lbs of torque from the supercharger that the ZR1 has over the Viper in the mid range makes a huge difference coming off the line with the long 1st gear....

the Viper also has to shift into 4th right at the traps, making it trap a bit lower compared to the ZR1 which can stay in 3rd gear...

from a roll I think it's a drivers race to win....





Originally Posted by Kyle Lemish (Post 1583715105)
Just for good fair comparison sake........I ran a full day at MIR back in 2011 with DA at a best of 1000 positive to 1400 positive in the afternoon.

Even at the worst air of the day I was able to run consistant 10.8x at over 130 on almost every pass. Even cracked a 10.79@ 131 with drag times saying DA of +1250.

This was my first time out on my (at the time) new wheel and tire combo which has proven to be pretty optimal for stock ZR1's.

I would like to know the specs of the tires used on the viper?

I used a set of DR's that were too tall on the ZR1 for a while and id did hurt ET somewhat but trap speeds were all still in excess of 130, So in a mexico style race with equal drivers I do believe the ZR1 will easily prevail!:D so Im told the driver of that viper is pretty d@mn good, so judging from the data supplied we all know its a drivers race, but IMHO the ZR1 will edge the viper with equal drivers and conditions.:rock:

Way to go GM! Now Give us a 700 HP C7 ZR1 so I can head for the 9's all stock:hide:


Kyle Lemish 04-23-2013 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by FikseGTS (Post 1583715282)
the extra 90 ft-lbs of torque from the supercharger that the ZR1 has over the Viper in the mid range makes a huge difference coming off the line with the long 1st gear....

the Viper also has to shift into 4th right at the traps, making it trap a bit lower compared to the ZR1 which can stay in 3rd gear...

from a roll I think it's a drivers race to win....

ZR1 wont finish the 1/4 in 3rd with any tire!

What size DR's were you running on the Viper?

racerns 04-23-2013 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Kyle Lemish (Post 1583715357)
ZR1 wont finish the 1/4 in 3rd with any tire!

:iagree:

Also, the ZR1 actually has an overall taller first gear ratio than the new Viper.

For another comparison, my first ever day at the track with the ZR1 I ran a 11.05 @ 129mph (stock tires) on my 10th run with a DA of ~+400ft. I was not a very experience drag racer at the time either.

Kyle Lemish 04-23-2013 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by racerns (Post 1583715868)
:iagree:

Also, the ZR1 actually has an overall taller first gear ratio than the new Viper.

For another comparison, my first ever day at the track with the ZR1 I ran a 11.05 @ 129mph (stock tires) on my 10th run with a DA of ~+400ft. I was not a very experience drag racer at the time either.

:iagree:

In positive DA with a great track such as PBIR/MIR I dont think the DR's on a stock car are that great of thing. You can still run High 10's pretty easy in a ZR1.

Neil you will probably recall one of our first ZR1 outings together and there were 5 stock ZR1's on stock tires and everyone of them went in the 10's

Shurshot 04-23-2013 04:18 PM

I was surprised the boys at SRT did not find a way to get their motor up to around 675 hp or above before introducing the new Viper.

They already knew how competent the ZR 1 is on both the drag strip and a racecourse. Add that to GM being due to bring out a new model I would think would have caused them to reach further into their idea box and be a little bit more creative with getting more power.

Time will tell


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