Viper TA bests ZR1 record around Leguna Seca
New Viper TA beats ZR1 record around Leguna Seca by .08 seconds.
Keep in mind this car was built specifically for this purpose after the Viper team was embarrassed by the ZR1. After which excuses and poor sport comments were made by SRT boss Ralph Gilles. He complained about the tires the ZR1 used, and then complained that driver Randy Pobst always struggles with the Viper; to which Randy countered, "Well, yeah I've always had a hard time with cars that don't handle well." So after all the whining they rolled up their sleeves and purposely tuned this new viper to squeak out a win against a dated platform that is now out of production. Way to go Team viper:woohoo: |
Wow, originally posted in ZR1 forum and the moderators moved it to the boondocks. I thought this info was more of a testament of how good the ZR1 was, to necessitate the building of a race purpose Viper to only beat the record by less than a tenth of a second.
I guess the Moderators are afraid someone will get their feelings hurt. |
Originally Posted by C5Z
(Post 1583806044)
Wow, originally posted in ZR1 forum and the moderators moved it to the boondocks. I thought this info was more of a testament of how good the ZR1 was, to necessitate the building of a race purpose Viper to only beat the record by less than a tenth of a second.
I guess the Moderators are afraid someone will get their feelings hurt. I have a feeling that corvette is going to to an L88 which is going to kick some butt. End result all these cars are getting so fast, that whatever car win will be by a close margin, its just going to come down to which car you prefer in looks and feel. |
Originally Posted by C5Z
(Post 1583805761)
New Viper TA beats ZR1 record around Leguna Seca by .08 seconds.
Keep in mind this car was built specifically for this purpose after the Viper team was embarrassed by the ZR1. After which excuses and poor sport comments were made by SRT boss Ralph Gilles. He complained about the tires the ZR1 used, and then complained that driver Randy Pobst always struggles with the Viper; to which Randy countered, "Well, yeah I've always had a hard time with cars that don't handle well." So after all the whining they rolled up their sleeves and purposely tuned this new viper to squeak out a win against a dated platform that is now out of production. Way to go Team viper:woohoo: SRT won't make that same mistake, when corvettes performance model comes out, I would say that is when the ACR will be released, Ralph has hinted about F/I , I would love to see that out of a production viper, I sure as hell know what past F/I does, my v-10 LOVES F/I |
Right, you are stating the obvious. Of course the viper will get quicker, the poor sportsmanship antics and the scrambling to catch up to a now obsolete car is somewhat amusing. Considering a decade ago most wouldn't even consider a Corvette in the same performance category as the Viper.
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C5Z on the same Michelin sport cup tires like on the ZR1. The TA Viper was 2 seconds faster than the ZR1..
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Originally Posted by C5Z
(Post 1583808275)
Right, you are stating the obvious. Of course the viper will get quicker, the poor sportsmanship antics and the scrambling to catch up to a now obsolete car is somewhat amusing. Considering a decade ago most wouldn't even consider a Corvette in the same performance category as the Viper.
Viper isn't scrambling for anything, the performance model isn't out yet, they just covered the blunder they made with sending mules to test against a proven , improved, seasoned car, which has seem a lot of track time in the last 4 years. Corvette was used to getting killed by the viper until a man name Bob Lutz left team viper to work for team corvette, that car ended up being the 2006 Z06, which became the 1st corvette to outperform any viper ever. Team viper came back in 2008 , then the Corvette ZR1, then the Viper ACR, I call it good competition, without it foreign cars would be killing American cars, I don't know why the hell you are whining. Ohhh darn American makes some of the fastest cars on the planet...... Ohhh that sucks (much sarcasm) |
Originally Posted by LEE427
(Post 1583808879)
C5Z on the same Michelin sport cup tires like on the ZR1. The TA Viper was 2 seconds faster than the ZR1..
At what track? What was the lap time? Ralph made a comment that they tested the TA with 19" Cup tires (not ZP) and got some lap times 2 sec faster than the Corsas. Never said what the times were or the track. When Pobst ran the TA at LS they put some Michelin Racing slicks on the car and ran a time 3 sec faster. I am sorry but a cup tire is not only 1 sec or less slower than a true race slick. Ask anyone who has run both on their car. So why didn't they bring a ZR1 back out to test against the TA? They weren't sure that they were faster and couldn't risk Pobst getting a better ZR1 time in different conditions. |
Originally Posted by NytmereZ
(Post 1583810517)
in reality it is called good competition
I LOVE to see the camps competing like this. The end result is going to be team America anally violating foreign exotics to an extent we've never seen. Last time they needed ibuprofen and a walker, this time they're gonna need a wheelchair. |
Originally Posted by NytmereZ
(Post 1583810517)
You have a bad chip on your shoulder, Poor sportsmanship? Hahahahahha , in reality it is called good competition.
Viper isn't scrambling for anything, the performance model isn't out yet, they just covered the blunder they made with sending mules to test against a proven , improved, seasoned car, which has seem a lot of track time in the last 4 years. Corvette was used to getting killed by the viper until a man name Bob Lutz left team viper to work for team corvette, that car ended up being the 2006 Z06, which became the 1st corvette to outperform any viper ever. Team viper came back in 2008 , then the Corvette ZR1, then the Viper ACR, I call it good competition, without it foreign cars would be killing American cars, I don't know why the hell you are whining. Ohhh darn American makes some of the fastest cars on the planet...... Ohhh that sucks (much sarcasm) And I'm not whining, originally posted this in the ZR1 section b/c it was relevant to that car, and it's record getting beaten. Softened it up a little or I'd have the ZR1 guys on my ass accusing me of being a Viper troll.... Got moved to the boondocks where I now have the Viper guys all cranky:lol: Emotional guys like you always assume everyone else has the same level of passion as yourself, hence the accusations of whining where there was none and child-like sarcasm. Your antics are nearly as amusing as Ralph Gillis'. |
Always loved both cars and believe through competition, they make each other just that much better. Either car is more powerful and faster than anything you would ever realistically use on the street. I'd love to have both in my garage.
-Alex |
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