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mallie 10-11-2013 04:21 PM

new carpet, no insulation...
 
Got new carpet for my 65 Coupe from ACC and got it installed by a local upholstery shop.
I think I learned my lesson and will not cut corners and go the cheap route next time...

They did a very lame job! Car was filthy in and out, somewhat poor fitment of the new carpet, a few dings/scratches on the central console. Some of the interior panels not refitted properly and, most of all, they did not replace the insulation!! They put new padding but removed the insulation!! Not sure they could have kept the original insulation but at least they should have let me know before putting the new carpet w/o it!!! It was to be a $380 job, but needless to say I did not give them a penny for that lousy job!

Anyway, do you think I shall add the insulation (meaning I would have to remove carpet again and probably replace padding too). I drove it a few times and could not really feel a difference in term of noise or heat...

Thanks,
-Matt

RestoMike 10-11-2013 04:28 PM

"They put new padding but removed the insulation!!"

What are you saying here, both sound the same :eek:

Kerr 10-11-2013 04:31 PM

If you plan on driving it i would.. Mine use to get so hot it felt like you toes where on fire.


What i did was simple to be honest.. took out the seats, pulled out the carpet, went to home depot and got rolls of the thick insulation in the heat and air section. ( stuff you would see in your house, sorta looks like chome) put that down, also went up the fire wall as far as i can. Then bolted everything back in. i didnt do any testing before and after, but i can tell you my feet dont feel like they are on fire. This was a few years ago so im not sure what i cost now, But i think i spend like $60.00?

mallie 10-11-2013 04:34 PM

they replaced the carpet jute but not the insulation:

I mean this insulation
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed

mallie 10-11-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kerr (Post 1585151848)
If you plan on driving it i would.. Mine use to get so hot it felt like you toes where on fire.


What i did was simple to be honest.. took out the seats, pulled out the carpet, went to home depot and got rolls of the thick insulation in the heat and air section. ( stuff you would see in your house, sorta looks like chome) put that down, also went up the fire wall as far as i can. Then bolted everything back in. i didnt do any testing before and after, but i can tell you my feet dont feel like they are on fire. This was a few years ago so im not sure what i cost now, But i think i spend like $60.00?

u only did the front? what year is your vette? I think 63s did not have any floor insulation.

1snake 10-11-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by mallie (Post 1585151883)
they replaced the carpet jute but not the insulation:

I mean this insulation
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...Product_Viewed

I bought the same stuff for my 65 and decided not to use it. It's still in the box sitting in the corner of my garage. I used Thermo-tec insulation instead.

Jim

LB66383 10-11-2013 05:45 PM

I could be wrong, but I believe all that was there from the factory was the jute padding. The Eckler's kit you reference is an add-on, not factory original. I didn't find anything but jute when I redid my '66 coupe. I added Dynamat throughout.

Bluestripe67 10-11-2013 06:01 PM

Do you know if the carpet that was in your car was original or a combination of someone's creativity? Your description (two layers of something) makes me think it was someone's creativity. As far as I know all orig carpet was backed by jute padding only. Call it insulation, sound deadening, padding, but it was one layer of material. Most of us long term owners call it "jute" padding. The shop got it right. Not sure what your interpretation of "insulation" is, but put it in if you like. :cheers: Dennis

RestoMike 10-11-2013 06:01 PM

Corvettes 63-67 had no insulation. 63/64 had foam backing on the carpet, 65/67 had jute. If they added jute that's all it should have gotten unless otherwise specified. You can't have both jute and insulation otherwise your carpet would be too thick. As suggested you might add some sort of heat barrier product like Dynamat under it all.

Sounds like the carpet may need to come out.

1snake 10-11-2013 06:47 PM

The underlayment in the link posted above by the OP is exactly what they came with from the factory.

Rokndad 10-11-2013 09:16 PM

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Attachment 47739837When I recently did my 67 coupe, I pulled the jute underlayment I discovered that it was original Stevens padding with a rubberized backing dated two months before my cars assembly date. I installed new rubberized jute padding over the foil backed heat insulation that's only about 3/8" thick and doesn't affect the ACC carpet installation at all.
Got everything from the 20% off sale at Willcox. Anyone who can use scissors, a Phillips screwdriver and a couple of scrapers can change carpet/insulation in their mid year car. Simple.
Tom

ooh yeah 10-12-2013 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by RestoMike (Post 1585152523)
Corvettes 63-67 had no insulation. 63/64 had foam backing on the carpet, 65/67 had jute. If they added jute that's all it should have gotten unless otherwise specified. You can't have both jute and insulation otherwise your carpet would be too thick. As suggested you might add some sort of heat barrier product like Dynamat under it all.

Sounds like the carpet may need to come out.

:iagree: I used hush mat and Jute material, well worth it. The wife and I did the work, PITA few day job but everything is together as should be. I will tell you this if you decide to use both the install is a little harder due to lengths of bolts and screws. Just cut out the Hush mat around the attaching points so the original hardware fits.

RestoMike 10-12-2013 08:59 AM

"I used hush mat and Jute material, well worth it."

Same here. I also included sound deadner inside the doors as well. It's amazing the results sound deadner makes inside the cabin.
:thumbs:

00fxd 10-12-2013 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by mallie (Post 1585151760)
a few dings/scratches on the central console.
-Matt

Nice ...


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