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bobby777 07-14-2014 09:54 AM

Air Conditioner and H/P?
 
With the A/C on--How much H/P does it take to run? :cheers:

4XLR8N 07-14-2014 11:59 AM

It depends upon engine rpm (how fast you are turning the compressor), but generally around 10 hp +/-. Most vehicles (with computers) have a switch that will turn off the a/c automatically at WOT, so it doesn't affect max hp.

bobby777 07-14-2014 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by 4XLR8N (Post 1587356782)
It depends upon engine rpm (how fast you are turning the compressor), but generally around 10 hp +/-. Most vehicles (with computers) have a switch that will turn off the a/c automatically at WOT, so it doesn't affect max hp.

Thx for the info--I wonder how much the 1/4 mile times would be slower with a/c on?

C5Dobie 07-14-2014 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by bobby777 (Post 1587356964)
Thx for the info--I wonder how much the 1/4 mile times would be slower with a/c on?

Negligable I'd imagine since again, it should turn off @ WOT. Mythbusters did a show on this and found that a vehicle is more efficient running w/ the AC on and windows up as opposed to AC off and windows down, now - AC off and windows up would probably be the most ideal, but then again in a Z06 at the track you'd be sweating your ass off....can't run the 1/4 w/ the windows down though can ya?

bikeriderga 07-14-2014 06:44 PM

Real men don;t use AC!!

Of course they will smell like BigFoot (sorry, couldn''t resist)! :)

bobby777 07-14-2014 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by C5Dobie (Post 1587358522)
Negligable I'd imagine since again, it should turn off @ WOT. Mythbusters did a show on this and found that a vehicle is more efficient running w/ the AC on and windows up as opposed to AC off and windows down, now - AC off and windows up would probably be the most ideal, but then again in a Z06 at the track you'd be sweating your ass off....can't run the 1/4 w/ the windows down though can ya?

Well if your good--you could have your left fingers on the power windows--last yellow push windows and let the clutch-out at the same time-might take some practice-;)

Moto One 07-15-2014 10:31 AM

Auto crossing it will cost you .02 on avg.

Mark

2003Evo 07-15-2014 11:35 AM

its a 1/4 mile suck it up, just turn it off as soon as you stage at the tree.

danieloneil01 07-15-2014 04:28 PM

The A/C should never be on while at the track. *******s who do use A/C, risk those on the track

bobby777 07-16-2014 09:59 PM

I just read an article--2008 Z06 505 h/p--lost 18 ponies-with all acc. on the dyno -peak h/p--im thinking c5 z05 would be down 14 h/p with air on-yes all acc. on take power--ac being the most-

Mig233 07-18-2014 10:29 AM

I can notice the difference. Mostly because the engine decelerates faster than with the A/C compressor off. I have to change the timing of my shifts to compensate.

lane_viper 07-18-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by C5Dobie (Post 1587358522)
Mythbusters did a show on this and found that a vehicle is more efficient running w/ the AC on and windows up as opposed to AC off and windows down

Actually, they found Going less than 50 mph it is more efficient to leave the windows down, but going greater than 50 mph it is more efficient to use the A/C.

philadd 07-18-2014 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by danieloneil01 (Post 1587367107)
The A/C should never be on while at the track. *******s who do use A/C, risk those on the track

I don't track my car, so forgive my ignorance, but... how does running the A/C pose a risk to other drivers on the track?

rjwz28 07-18-2014 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by philadd (Post 1587391053)
I don't track my car, so forgive my ignorance, but... how does running the A/C pose a risk to other drivers on the track?

Air conditioning produces condensation which will end up becoming water on the track... that's about the only way it could possibly be construed to endanger others

bobby777 07-18-2014 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by philadd (Post 1587391053)
I don't track my car, so forgive my ignorance, but... how does running the A/C pose a risk to other drivers on the track?

OK--forget this thread--it takes H/P 10-20 to run a/c=drag on the motor

ptindall 07-19-2014 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by rjwz28 (Post 1587392936)
Air conditioning produces condensation which will end up becoming water on the track...


Correct.

rjwz28 07-19-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by danieloneil01 (Post 1587367107)
The A/C should never be on while at the track. *******s who do use A/C, risk those on the track


Originally Posted by philadd (Post 1587391053)
I don't track my car, so forgive my ignorance, but... how does running the A/C pose a risk to other drivers on the track?


Originally Posted by rjwz28 (Post 1587392936)
Air conditioning produces condensation which will end up becoming water on the track... that's about the only way it could possibly be construed to endanger others


Originally Posted by ptindall (Post 1587396145)
Correct.

It wouldn't be problem if only one car was doing it, since the amount of water would barely amount to droplets at speed... but a whole road course full of cars running their air conditioning certainly could catch somebody a bit off guard when they catch a slick spot mid-corner

onspeed 07-19-2014 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by rjwz28 (Post 1587396674)
It wouldn't be problem if only one car was doing it, since the amount of water would barely amount to droplets at speed... but a whole road course full of cars running their air conditioning certainly could catch somebody a bit off guard when they catch a slick spot mid-corner

Most endurance racing cars have air conditioning... there are even rules in place regarding how hot the cabin can get, so I don't think a small bit of condensation would do anything on a road course, especially once the track is up to temp.

Drag strip... maybe.

rjwz28 07-19-2014 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by onspeed (Post 1587397960)
Most endurance racing cars have air conditioning... there are even rules in place regarding how hot the cabin can get, so I don't think a small bit of condensation would do anything on a road course, especially once the track is up to temp.

Drag strip... maybe.

Yeah, that was my initial thought... but I have only been on a road course with maybe eight or ten other cars, so it wouldn't be any sort of a problem anyway

mammoth713 07-19-2014 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by 2003Evo (Post 1587364796)
its a 1/4 mile suck it up, just turn it off as soon as you stage at the tree.

:iagree:

Both my LS1 z28 and c5z idle/run differently when the AC is on vs off.. Both drive much more "normal" with the AC off..


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