Best Transmission and Diff Oil to use in 2001 C5 Automatic
Doing some fluid changes and could not find any definate answers so thought I would ask. I have an 01 (86,000 mi) with a 3.15 Diff and was wondering ...
1. What would be the best oil to use for the diff oil change? (* I was leaning towards Redline 75W90) 2. Best oil and filter for transmission (Auto A4)? Thanks! |
the redline 75-90 is excellent in the rear, the additive pack works great on our LSDs
no help on the auto but redline does make some ester based auto trans fluids that can hold up to some very high heat |
Originally Posted by vettefx76
(Post 1587403974)
Doing some fluid changes and could not find any definate answers so thought I would ask. I have an 01 (86,000 mi) with a 3.15 Diff and was wondering ...
1. What would be the best oil to use for the diff oil change? (* I was leaning towards Redline 75W90) 2. Best oil and filter for transmission (Auto A4)? Thanks! Any good GL5 75-90 differential gear oil will work fine. If you get clutch chatter in tight tuns you will need to add a little limited slip additive until it stops. I have not had to add any additional limited slip additive. Red Line is a fine oil. Any good synthetic engine oil will serve the purpose. Use the GM Filter and some Mobile 1 and the engine will be happy. |
Ok so do I have to drain the entire transmission to put the Amsoil stuff in or can I just drain whats in the pan, change filter and then put in the Amsoil oil?
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Well,,, Seeing that it may not have been serviced in the past, I strongly recommend removing the pan and replacing the filter and then refilling.
You will never be able to completely change ALL the fluid as most of it is still inside the torque converter. However, this is what needs to be done to see if the fluid and the fluid level is the root cause. Bill |
I own a trans shop that specializes in performance 4L60Es. We ONLY suggest that our customers use regular Dexron III / Mercon (DexIII). Synthetic are a huge waste of money in a 4L60E, and provide absolutely no benefit.
Frank |
Originally Posted by thumpinc5
(Post 1587560676)
I own a trans shop that specializes in performance 4L60Es. We ONLY suggest that our customers use regular Dexron III / Mercon (DexIII). Synthetic are a huge waste of money in a 4L60E, and provide absolutely no benefit.
Frank Can you elaborate on how the synthetics don't provide any benefit? I would have thought that they would be more heat stable and break down less over time. Bill |
Originally Posted by thumpinc5
(Post 1587560676)
I own a trans shop that specializes in performance 4L60Es. We ONLY suggest that our customers use regular Dexron III / Mercon (DexIII). Synthetic are a huge waste of money in a 4L60E, and provide absolutely no benefit.
Frank dex3 is done for at that temp |
Originally Posted by thumpinc5
(Post 1587560676)
I own a trans shop that specializes in performance 4L60Es. We ONLY suggest that our customers use regular Dexron III / Mercon (DexIII). Synthetic are a huge waste of money in a 4L60E, and provide absolutely no benefit.
Frank Also, all licenses for the Dexron III product have since expired, so that's why you get these names like "Dex/Merc" which is essentially unsupported by GM for anyone who didn't know. |
Originally Posted by thumpinc5
(Post 1587560676)
I own a trans shop that specializes in performance 4L60Es. We ONLY suggest that our customers use regular Dexron III / Mercon (DexIII). Synthetic are a huge waste of money in a 4L60E, and provide absolutely no benefit.
Frank |
My experience with these transmissions have shown there's no benefit to synthetics. Trans temp should never get above 180-200 degrees. If it does, you have other issues. Normal trans fluid will last up to 30,000 miles without needing to be changed unless there is another issue causing a problem.
Most companies have relabeled Dex III as "multi-vehicle fluid". It's still the same stuff though. Frank |
Originally Posted by racebum
(Post 1587563014)
how ? an ester oil like redline will not break down at 300deg
dex3 is done for at that temp Frank |
Originally Posted by thumpinc5
(Post 1587577396)
If your trans gets to 300 degrees, you have bigger issues than what fluid is in it...LOL
Frank 300deg temps are common on track days with some stock cars that have upped the power in fact a turbo 300zx i use to have repeatedly got to 260-280 in an auto trans under power and that was just street racing larger cooler would have obviously helped, but, there was no room to mount one on that car without a real plumbing project i put over 20k miles on that car, lot of it drag racing, always used redline, trans never was rebuilt |
I just remembered that when I had my 02 Escalade, the guys over at the caddy forum recommended Castrol Dexron VI... I did use it and had no issues with it in that vehicle... Wondering if I should use the Castrol brand in here hmmm....
Also thought I would share some findings after I searched for a while - this is interesting stuff! Makes me wonder know if I should just use Dex IV... All DEXRONŽ-III licenses expire at the end of 2006 and will not be renewed. Beyond that date GM will only support the use of DEXRONŽ-VI fluids for use in Hydra-Matic transmissions. Fluids sold in the market after that date bearing claims such as “suitable for use in DEXRONŽ-III applications” or similar wording should be avoided. DEXRONŽ-VI licensed fluids are fully backward compatible and can be used in all applications covered by earlier GM ATF specifications. The use of unlicensed fluids and/or non GM approved aftermarket additives may prove detrimental to transmission performance and void warranty coverage. If you wish to download the complete doc go HERE |
Not trying to hijack this thread but, since we have the information on trans temps right in front of us, what are the typical temps other A4 drivers see?
Mine will run up to 220 in heavy traffic and drop slowly to 200 to 210 on the freeway. |
I have a good b&m cooler on mine. The radiator cooler is bypassed. I've never seen over 175.
Ron |
Originally Posted by c51stvette
(Post 1587619141)
Not trying to hijack this thread but, since we have the information on trans temps right in front of us, what are the typical temps other A4 drivers see?
Mine will run up to 220 in heavy traffic and drop slowly to 200 to 210 on the freeway. |
Ok so I went with Redline 75W90 for the diff and D4 for the auto trans, plus oem filter and gasket. I'll let you guys know how it all works out. Oh does anyone know if I will need the additive for the diff together with the 75w90 in there?
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I change my trans fluid every year and I'd be lucky to get 2k miles a year on it. I use reg dex/merc and I set the dash temp gauge to show at all times. I'm always starring at it. lol. Trans temp runs between 180* -190* in traffic on 85* days. Moves up a few degrees when I lay into it hard, but never breaks the 200* mark. Car put down 565rwhp so it moves pretty good on the street. It also has a good b&m cooler in addition to going thru the radiator.
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Originally Posted by vettefx76
(Post 1587690710)
Ok so I went with Redline 75W90 for the diff and D4 for the auto trans, plus oem filter and gasket. I'll let you guys know how it all works out. Oh does anyone know if I will need the additive for the diff together with the 75w90 in there?
the redline 75-90 has borderline too much additive stock out of the bottle. healthy for the life of an lsd but a touch more lockup wouldn't be bad IMO great oil though, group 5 esters {which redline is} are more or less ideal for older seals, they have a mild softening and swelling effect on them |
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