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1Redctoo 09-13-2014 04:07 PM

1966 "396" Corvette
 
I was just at a very small car show today and the guy next to me said he has a friend who has a very rare , Early 1966 Corvette with a documented 396 cu in motor in it . I have never read or heard of any 1966 Corvettes with a 396 in them only 1965's . There always seems to be that fluke of a car combo so........................?

65Vett04 09-13-2014 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by 1Redctoo (Post 1587823552)
I was just at a very small car show today and the guy next to me said he has a friend who has a very rare , Early 1966 Corvette with a documented 396 cu in motor in it . I have never read or heard of any 1966 Corvettes with a 396 in them only 1965's . There always seems to be that fluke of a car combo so........................?

Maybe he meant "390" instead of "396"? No 396hp option listed in this excerpt from www.vettefacts.com/c2.

HH = 327-cid 300-hp V-8 with 10.5:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, and four-barrel carburetor
HR = 327-cid 300-hp V-8 with 10.5:1 compression ratio, automatic transmission, and four-barrel carburetor
HD = 327-cid 350-hp V-8 with 11.0:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, and four-barrel carburetor
HO = 327-cid 300-hp V-8 with 10.5:1 compression ratio, automatic transmission, and four barrel carburetor
HT = 327-cid 350-hp V-8 with 11.0:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, four-barrel carburetor
HP = 327-cid 300-hp V-8 with 10.5:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, four-barrel carburetor
KH = 327-cid 350-hp V-8 with 11.0:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, four-barrel carburetor
IK = 427-cid 425-hp V-8 with 11.0:1 compression ratio, manual transmission
IL = 427-cid 390-hp V-8 with 10.25:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, four-barrel carburetor
IM = 427-cid 390-hp V-8 with 10.25:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, four-barrel carburetor
IP = 427-cid 425-hp V-8 with 11.0:1 compression ratio, manual transmission, four-barrel carburetor
IQ = 427-cid 390-hp V-8 with 10.25:1 compression ratio, Powerglide automatic transmission and four-barrel carburetor
IR = 427-cid 390-hp V-8 with 10.25:1 compression ratio, Powerglide automatic transmission, four-barrel carburetor

65hihp 09-13-2014 04:42 PM

Comment from another thread...
Just curious where these friends who know so much about our old vettes, yet never seem to own one themselves come from. There seem to be millions of them out in the world, and they gravitate to our cars. When my car is out on Sunday morning at car guy church, these experts flock to my car like ants to sugar and spout off non stop advice, insight and counsel, none of it solicited. They usually start off with "an uncle or a friend had one just like this back in 72..."

You don't really believe these stories that people tell you about their friend of a friend or wife's brother's boss has, or knows, etc, right?

MaineDoc 09-13-2014 04:50 PM

Are you sure he didn't mean a 63 with a fuel injected 427? That's really rare.

Gary's '66 09-13-2014 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by MaineDoc (Post 1587823803)
Are you sure he didn't mean a 63 with a fuel injected 427? That's really rare.

Don't forget the stinger hood that came with it. :lol:

Ironcross 09-13-2014 09:17 PM

Since most people are not familiar with years and engines let alone identify the car as a Vette, the 396 guy was only a year off. And unless you own one its difficult to identify a 64-67....

My 63 was always mistaken as a 64 or 65 coupe.....:D

SonnyAK 09-13-2014 10:05 PM

I'm amazed how confused some people can become about their very own cars...When I was a kid, a family friend of ours had a '66 BB Conv which he had purchased brand new - until the day he died, he swore it was a '67!! It was a completely stock car so it was easy to tell what year it was...:willy:

LT1driver 09-13-2014 10:20 PM

maybe it was a rare 427 delete car with the 396 motor that was used when they ran out of 427s early in the production run:D

pop23235 09-13-2014 11:04 PM

I think it is great. Those rare folks who have these rare cars are the most friendly folks in the whole wide world. Everyone is their friend it seems as I run into them often as well. Someone is always telling me how they have these special friends. Those guys must know everyone!

Donny Brass 09-13-2014 11:04 PM

and a metal body............

Gary's '66 09-14-2014 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by Donny Brass (Post 1587826024)
and a metal body............

That's right! I forgot about those early production metal bodied cars. :D

DansYellow66 09-14-2014 07:41 AM

Maybe it's all in the meaning of "documented" 396. I have a genuine 427 motor in mine with lots of "documents" I received with it - but the motor was manufactured 2 years after the car. Lots of people frequenting car shows would be better off to just look and keep quiet.

65 Pro Vette 09-14-2014 07:53 AM

My 64 split window Cp was painted a rare maroon with a green int. It had duel driveshafts and chrome muffler bearings. I was told it could not have come with the green int. but I did buy it new so I know it's original. :D

Nowhere Man 09-14-2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by 65 Pro Vette (Post 1587827134)
My 64 split window Cp was painted a rare maroon with a green int. It had duel driveshafts and chrome muffler bearings. I was told it could not have come with the green int. but I did buy it new so I know it's original. :D

Did it come with that 409 too?

capevettes 09-14-2014 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Donny Brass (Post 1587826024)
and a metal body............

I've had more than a few wizards at cruise nights knock on the fender of my 61 asking if it was one of the early metal cars :willy: Lots of BS floating around at the cruise nights but I still enjoy them.

Gary's '66 09-14-2014 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by capevettes (Post 1587827404)
I've had more than a few wizards at cruise nights knock on the fender of my 61 asking if it was one of the early metal cars :willy: Lots of BS floating around at the cruise nights but I still enjoy them.

If someone was knocking on the fenders of my car there's a good chance they would be getting some knocking on their skull.

AZDoug 09-14-2014 02:42 PM

FWIW, at a gas station last week, some guy, maybe 60ish came up and told me (I had my '61, as in my Avatar) : "I had a Chevelle just like back in 1965, a red SS 327. I rolled it".

Whatever.

Doug

Jakes64 09-14-2014 08:25 PM

For what it's worth. Back in 1969 I was in the market for a Corvette. I called a guy who had a 1966 vert for sale. He worked at the Chevy Tech Center in Warren Mi. He said the engine was a 396/425. My guess is that it was some kind of test mule at the Tech Center that he bought when they were done with it. So it' s not impossible to see a 66 with a 396 in it.

Tried to buy it. He wouldn't take a deposit. Said he would hold it for me until the next day when I could get to the bank. He sold it to a guy who showed up right after I was there. Needless to say I hold some dark feelings towards him to this day.

RatDog 09-15-2014 08:14 AM

Someone at a cruise-in awhile back complimented me on my beautiful Camaro.

Yesterday, someone walked by my car at a parking lot and asked me if it was a '58 (at least he knew it was a Corvette . . . I think.)

Had a guy a few weeks ago at a restaurant parking lot tell me he saw a 1950 Corvette with a V8 for sale.

It's all part of the fun with these cars. The general public doesn't have a clue. Many people just say, "Beautiful car" or "Nice car" or something like that so they don't embarrass themselves by saying something dumb. Most people seem nice and are happy to learn something about the car. But there are uninformed fools out there, too, who think they know more about your car than you do.

-- Steve

rayvaflav 09-15-2014 09:20 AM

It's not that hard to imagine a guy spending a lot of money to buy a great looking Big Block '66 and then finding out later that it has the wrong engine, a 396 ("I dunno, it looked like a 427"). You can make or have someone else fake enough documentation to make yourself feel better about your bone-headed purchase. And then you can pass that along to the next buyer. In the meantime you can flaunt your provenance and create another "Fiberglass Urban Legend".

Ray

DZAUTO 09-15-2014 09:53 AM

Then you get one of these in the mix. And the armchair experts think they know everything.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...100_0756-1.jpg


462 heads with pyramid symbol and 9-fin valve covers.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ps524564a1.jpg


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ps3139b370.jpg

65 fi 09-15-2014 10:06 AM

The number 3 car for 1965 was converted to a 427 mule at the tech center.

emccomas 09-15-2014 12:56 PM

Come on guys, surely you have heard this before...

Chevrolet was having trouble getting the 427 engines built in early 1966, so they installed leftover 396 engines from 1965, and coded them so that they were numbers matching. :rofl:

Everybody know this

Mr D. 09-15-2014 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by emccomas (Post 1587835920)
Come on guys, surely you have heard this before...

Chevrolet was having trouble getting the 427 engines built in early 1966, so they installed leftover 396 engines from 1965, and coded them so that they were numbers matching. :rofl:

Everybody know this

I think we know the same person because just last week I was taking to a co-worker that knew a guy who he went to school with that had a 6th cousin twice removed that had a boyfriend who was roomates with a guy that bought one of those 1966 396 Corvettes off the show room floor in 1967 when he returned from Vietnam.

Small world.

63Corvette 09-15-2014 04:06 PM

In 1970 I was driving my 67/427 coupe when I passed a 66 BB convertible on the side of the road with the hood up, so I stopped to see if he needed any help. During the conversation, he mentioned that he had just recently bought the car, and had paid a premium price because "it has a rare aluminum 427 with aluminum heads." Since the hood was up and I could see the beat up orange paint, I asked him "How do you know it's aluminum?" His response was "Because the guy (seller) TOLD me it was." I asked him if he had tried a magnet on it...............and offered that I had one in my car that he was free to use. It got real quiet, and I noticed the red blush creeping up his face, so I told him that if there was nothing else he needed, I would be moving on.:D

65 fi 09-15-2014 09:32 PM

I know nothing about this particular car but there have been a number of one-off creations that have surfaced over the years. Case-in-point would be the Z06 convertible.
I am not sure why a tech-center mock-up would not have a 396. Those cars were actually assembled during the prior production cycle.

jprop 09-15-2014 10:45 PM

I was getting gas in my 67 and guy walks up and asks if he can take some pictures. I say sure and he proceeds to tell me what a cool car I have. As he was leaving, he said, "Beautiful car! I've always wanted one of these old GTOs". Anyway, I did appreciate his compliments.

Revfan 09-16-2014 02:13 AM

And to think we split hairs over 64s with Drum Brakes and 67s with non original motors...

rfn026 09-16-2014 06:14 AM

We'v all heard the stories. The problem is some of them are true. While in college I had a friend who's dad was president of Chevrolet. He and I worked in the same plant.

When he arrived for work one June I asked what dad had gotten him for a summer car. He reliped "A fuelie with solid lifters and a Powerglide." My reply was "They don't make them."

He said he knew that but his dad told him "You really don't know how to drive a stick shift properly so I had them make this one for you."

Try explaining that car to the NCRS.

Richard Newton


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