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wwx8989 10-07-2014 07:21 PM

Questions about change CAM but do headers later
 
I just recently got my heads fixed (08Z) with SS exhaust valve,and bronze guide. I do want to do the cam mod since the heads are out. (save some labor money)
But my budget is limited now, so I cant do the long tube headers at the same time, but will do it around Christmas.
I know cam will perform better with long tubes, and yes Stock headers and cat will have a larger back pressure, but is it going to hurt the car? or I could do this step by step? maybe a mild tune will be helpful?

any suggestions and advice will be appreciated

Heads are ported as well as the TB and intake manifold. and has a KN CAI

Thanks
Frank

lebvette 10-07-2014 07:57 PM

Go for it. It's not going to hurt the car......just leave a few horses to be found latter. A tune will be appreciated by your car.

wwx8989 10-07-2014 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by lebvette (Post 1587993838)
Go for it. It's not going to hurt the car......just leave a few horses to be found latter. A tune will be appreciated by your car.

thanks for the help, what's the extra parts do I need if I do cam? I know is good to change the timing chain, others small stuff will be good while the car is a part?

MTPZ06 10-08-2014 12:03 AM

Lots of people running an aftermarket cam with stock exhaust manifolds, no worries with that. A cam will require a tune. You mention the heads were just redone...not sure what springs you wnet with, but that will dictate what cam you can run based on compatabiliy.

wwx8989 10-08-2014 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by MTPZ06 (Post 1587995496)
Lots of people running an aftermarket cam with stock exhaust manifolds, no worries with that. A cam will require a tune. You mention the heads were just redone...not sure what springs you wnet with, but that will dictate what cam you can run based on compatabiliy.

I think they are .660 lift springs, I'm planning to do the katech K501 cam, i think it could work, car is getting tuned when the install complete
Thanks for the help

Unreal 10-08-2014 01:36 PM

I would get a custom cam spec'd to your car.

Friend has a cam/stock exhaust car. Still makes 550rwhp and runs really really good.

Since you are in Florida, just call up Matt@FSP. He will be able to help.

JUSTAC6 10-08-2014 07:12 PM

where did you get your head work done in in florida? im in destin and I don't know of anyone too close or even a few hours away.

I want to do a cam as well.

TRSCobra 10-08-2014 08:16 PM

I put in a mild cam at the same time I did my heads this past spring. Stock exhaust manifolds and intake, made 510whp on a mustang dyno and drives just fine (after tuning). My tuner said I should be around 550whp once I put an intake and headers on.

rio95 10-08-2014 08:57 PM

I put down 550 on a mustang dyno with stock exhaust. No issues but I do wonder what headers would do...

TRSCobra 10-08-2014 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by rio95 (Post 1588002313)
I put down 550 on a mustang dyno with stock exhaust. No issues but I do wonder what headers would do...

That's really good. What size cam? Other mods?

rio95 10-08-2014 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by TRSCobra (Post 1588002627)
That's really good. What size cam? Other mods?

Hell widow cam, wcch/vette air heads milled and ported, 107r intake, 93 octane

rio95 10-08-2014 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by rio95 (Post 1588002697)
Hell widow cam, wcch/vette air heads milled and ported, 107r intake, 93 octane

Dyno numbers are deceiving though so don't read into it too much...

ZedNought6 10-08-2014 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by rio95 (Post 1588002743)
Dyno numbers are deceiving though so don't read into it too much...

I second this. I had a cam that made superior numbers, but the cam I have now drives SO MUCH BETTER! Losing 25 HP never felt so good. The car is far better to drive, really very smooth.

Everyone has a favorite, but I'm gonna toss my vote in for EPS. Have Geoff spec a cam for your car and your needs. It may save you money in the long run...you wont be changing out cams one after the other.

Good luck

TRSCobra 10-09-2014 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by rio95 (Post 1588002743)
Dyno numbers are deceiving though so don't read into it too much...

Doesn't seem too far off compared to my black panther p1 cam, American Heritage ported/milled heads, and the stock intake/filter though.

wwx8989 10-09-2014 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by JUSTAC6 (Post 1588001467)
where did you get your head work done in in florida? im in destin and I don't know of anyone too close or even a few hours away.

I want to do a cam as well.

Jeremy Formato from Fastproms, they are in tampa area

wwx8989 10-09-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by ZedNought6 (Post 1588003427)
I second this. I had a cam that made superior numbers, but the cam I have now drives SO MUCH BETTER! Losing 25 HP never felt so good. The car is far better to drive, really very smooth.

Everyone has a favorite, but I'm gonna toss my vote in for EPS. Have Geoff spec a cam for your car and your needs. It may save you money in the long run...you wont be changing out cams one after the other.

Good luck

Can you give a idea how much the labor gonna be for the cam installed?
Im thinking about getting Katech K501

Thanks for the help

ZedNought6 10-10-2014 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by wwx8989 (Post 1588009711)
Can you give a idea how much the labor gonna be for the cam installed?
Im thinking about getting Katech K501

Thanks for the help

At a good shop It cost about 2400 in labor and 350 for tune to change out the cam and lifters. At a so-so shop 1500 labor and 500 for a tune, for a lot more things done to include lifters and cam swap...I'm happier with the shop that cost more, the work done was far superior. So, because I went with the cheap chips and didn't research enough it cost me more in the long run. Do your research on parts and shops and go with a place with a good rep, don't cheap out.


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