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bigcypress 04-30-2015 11:14 AM

zaino GASP!!!
 
i wanted some more zaino products but after looking at prices i just couldn't do it . using them doesn't take much product and they last a reasonable amount of time when applied but $20 for a bottle of z8 , wow .my wife says since i like them i should buy them but i'm an OLD man [remember when a loaf of bread was 17 cents ] and can't get a handle on todays prices . i've done a search in the past looking at other products and keep finding that every one likes something different and don't recall any reference to cost in those posts . interested in thoughts on good products at fair price or comments on zaino as maybe wife is right . NO REJEX comments are necessary as i tried it and gave it away , it is permanently REJECTED here . i appreciate your time , thank you . . . peace

OldCorvetteFan 04-30-2015 12:57 PM

I don't use Zaino, so I don't have a dog in that fight.

But you can't just look at the initial price of the product. If that $20 bottle will last you through 10 sessions, then you're paying $2/session.

On the other hand, if you pay $15 for some other product, and you're done with it in five sessions, then you're paying $3/session.

I just buy what I want - and you've already laid out how many THOUSANDS of dollars for a Corvette? And you're hesitating about $20 for something to use on your Corvette?

I remember when gas was under a dollar a gallon, but current prices (or even prices from a few years ago, when it was >$4/gallon here) never stopped me from gassing up the Vette and going somewhere.

Listen to your wife - at least she isn't nagging you about how much you're spending on that car! Fortunately, my wife doesn't, either!

Steven

bigcypress 04-30-2015 07:07 PM

UUHHHH, it's her corvette , i don't own a car and usually drive sons 97 honda vcr station wagon like thingy . . . peace

Kvothe 04-30-2015 09:27 PM

There are several options for you.

1. Don't buy it and get something you feel is more reasonable (Megs or Mothers?)
2. Buy Z8 and cut it in half with distilled water to double your order
3. Order Z6 instead
4. Order Z6 and cut that with distilled water

Lots of options to keep the cost down. I bought Z8 a couple years ago. I wasn't so impressed with it that I'd buy it again over Z6.

I usually have one bottle of Z6 cut 50/50 with distilled water. It still seems to do the trick for me. Once in a while I will use the 100% Z6 and it's hard to tell the difference to me.

Grzldvt1 05-01-2015 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by bigcypress (Post 1589532624)
i wanted some more zaino products but after looking at prices i just couldn't do it . using them doesn't take much product and they last a reasonable amount of time when applied but $20 for a bottle of z8 , wow .my wife says since i like them i should buy them but i'm an OLD man [remember when a loaf of bread was 17 cents ] and can't get a handle on todays prices . i've done a search in the past looking at other products and keep finding that every one likes something different and don't recall any reference to cost in those posts . interested in thoughts on good products at fair price or comments on zaino as maybe wife is right . NO REJEX comments are necessary as i tried it and gave it away , it is permanently REJECTED here . i appreciate your time , thank you . . . peace

I have tried 4 times to answer this and every time simply comes out negative. I have built a very, very successful detailing business in Silicon Valley using Zaino. By far it is the least expensive product I have used when you add in shine and DURABILITY. Clear Seal, a great example, an 8 oz bottle costs $30, but we get 40+ coats out of it, and get spectacular results. So for $.75 a coat we end up with award winning finishes and customers, under ideal conditions, don't need to come back for a year. Not sure where you will find a product that can beat that. I won't go into the fact that due to our reputation we get a ton of products for free and they simply don't match what we get from Zaino.

John Ulrich 05-01-2015 12:37 AM

A bottle of AOI lasts me two years. I'm still on the first bottle of Clear Seal I purchased when the product was first released. 1/4 bottle left.

Sleper 05-01-2015 07:03 AM

As per the above posts I love Zaino and with the amount you use and the durability Nothing compares IMO. Ease of removal is another positive factor for me with no white residue. :cheers:

capevettes 05-01-2015 08:49 AM

As others have said, Zaino's prices aren't bad when you consider how little you use and how infrequently you need to use it. The results are great and it's very easy to use IMO. $20 is a little steep for Z8 but most of the "high end" spray detailers are expensive. Z6 is cheaper and provides similar results.

OldCorvetteFan 05-01-2015 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by bigcypress (Post 1589535857)
UUHHHH, it's her corvette , i don't own a car and usually drive sons 97 honda vcr station wagon like thingy . . . peace

Well, if it's not your car, then make your wife buy the Zaino. In a prior post (last year) you claimed to like Z8. If you really like it, then let her keep buying it.

Or go to Wal Mart and buy the cheapest stuff you can find and see if that makes her happy with the results. That's really all that matters, isn't it? If your wife is happy with HER Corvette, then I would assume that you're also happy. If she doesn't like the look of the cheap stuff, then you know you need the Zaino.

:cheers:
Steven

bigcypress 05-01-2015 12:52 PM

'' Ease of removal is another positive factor for me with no white residue.'' that is what i've been overlooking , thank you . if i were to try something else i could be displeased with it and have nothing for my money as i did with '' rejects '' , i mean ''rejex'' . i get enough uses with zaino i should be worried about the shelf life and not the cost . did the semi-annual ''waxing'' on her daily driver yesterday and it looks really nice . do both her vettes once in the fall . i'll have her buy what i need when she comes home in two weeks , she is on vacation . i'm taking care of her house and yard and hate to travel so that works well . a sincere thanks to all for your comments . . . peace

mike100 05-01-2015 04:14 PM

Maybe one day I'll try the Zaino all-in-one, but the system of multiple processes, products, and reapplications seems geared to marketing and consumption of as much of their products as possible.
I like Rejex on lighter colors- it is a little harder to wipe off if you over apply it, but I have found it to be more durable on my cars.

If you want to use very easy to wipe off products for free, attend organized car show and dealer open houses where name brand wax companies are giving away free samples- I can usually pick up a couple of those mini bottles of Mother's which are enough to do a few cars. There is some difference in product- some are cleaner waxes with some degree of polishing action, but if you know this then it is really about technique and preparation- you can make a car look great with 20 year old turtle wax if you have to.

Grzldvt1 05-06-2015 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by mike100 (Post 1589542054)
Maybe one day I'll try the Zaino all-in-one, but the system of multiple processes, products, and reapplications seems geared to marketing and consumption of as much of their products as possible.

Not true at all, it is not all that complicated, in fact it seems very simple to me. You use so little product, that even applying 3 coats, you still use less than other of the other products we have tried. You can do one coat of Clear Seal and you are done, but better results come from more than one coat that simply out do anything we have used.

Bill97Z 05-07-2015 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by John Ulrich (Post 1589537788)
A bottle of AOI lasts me two years. I'm still on the first bottle of Clear Seal I purchased when the product was first released. 1/4 bottle left.

I agree, I have some zaino products that are 4 yrs old. A little goes a long way.

mike100 05-07-2015 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Grzldvt1 (Post 1589571845)
Not true at all, it is not all that complicated, in fact it seems very simple to me. You use so little product, that even applying 3 coats, you still use less than other of the other products we have tried. You can do one coat of Clear Seal and you are done, but better results come from more than one coat that simply out do anything we have used.

Ok, maybe i was wrong that Zaino is expensive if the best results come from using very little, but still, if you value your time...I don't have the time to lay down 3 or 4 coats when another lsp can be done once. if one is already looking at clay/compound/polish (or even just polish maintenance)- then 3 more steps... I have too many cars for that!

Grzldvt1 05-08-2015 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by mike100 (Post 1589582885)
Ok, maybe i was wrong that Zaino is expensive if the best results come from using very little, but still, if you value your time...I don't have the time to lay down 3 or 4 coats when another lsp can be done once. if one is already looking at clay/compound/polish (or even just polish maintenance)- then 3 more steps... I have too many cars for that!

Well not to belabor the point, but I am:D Maybe an extra hour for superior results. As I have stated before I have built a pretty successful detailing business in Silicon Valley with 70 5 star Yelp reviews, using Zaino and deliver cars in the same time as my competitors using a single coat product
Just want to make sure the rumors of complexity and time consuming are not really true, based on my making a living at it. Your travels may vary:thumbs:

timvan 05-08-2015 07:34 AM

That stuffs affordable if you compare it to pinnacle black label synergy 5oz is $195.00

z06clif 05-09-2015 08:07 PM

IM not using Zaino now but have in the past and a little bit goes a long long way. If they say 1 ounce can do a Vette then your using way to much. I mixed a 1/2 ounce at a time and got 3-4 applications from it. With Zaino the less you use the better it is. So what IM trying to say you get a lot for your money.

Clif

Fast Cop 05-17-2015 09:26 AM

Zaino is all I use. Been using it for about 9 years now and nothing but great results. At the beginning of this year I did a complete restocking of zaino. Cost me about $125.00 but based on 9 years of use this order should last me about 2 years. Keep in mind I use it on my garage kept Z06 and both my crew cab silverado and wife's jeep GC. :thumbs::cheers::flag:

Kerouac 05-19-2015 12:35 AM

I'm with the Zaino crowd. I just think it's the best. And it is the only company I've ever tried to re-order from that told me I was using too much of their product and should use less. That amazed me.

meyerweb 08-05-2015 11:14 PM

Old thread, I know, but I was just shopping for Zaino Z10, and wonder if there's any place to buy it other than direct from Zaino?

I'm not bothered at paying $11 for the product. But to then have to pay another $12 to ship one small bottle of product is outrageous. I could put that in a box and ship it USPS priority mail for half that.

Grzldvt1 08-06-2015 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by meyerweb (Post 1590209723)
Old thread, I know, but I was just shopping for Zaino Z10, and wonder if there's any place to buy it other than direct from Zaino?

I'm not bothered at paying $11 for the product. But to then have to pay another $12 to ship one small bottle of product is outrageous. I could put that in a box and ship it USPS priority mail for half that.

Check with Zaino to see if they have a distributor in your corner of the world. They are few and far between, but do exist.

meyerweb 08-06-2015 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Grzldvt1 (Post 1590210226)
Check with Zaino to see if they have a distributor in your corner of the world. They are few and far between, but do exist.

Thanks.

John Ulrich 08-06-2015 09:29 PM

I can catch My Zanio man at local car shows. Unfortunately for my guy a bottle of AOI lasts two years for me using on 4 cars bimonthly plus a number of relatives cars.

meyerweb 08-09-2015 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Grzldvt1 (Post 1590210226)
Check with Zaino to see if they have a distributor in your corner of the world. They are few and far between, but do exist.

Emailed them and they said no, no one in my area. And they seemed totally uninterested in trying to win a new customer by offering reasonable shipping on small orders. Flat rate for shipping, whether you order $12 worth or $1200 worth. Seems short sighted to me. If I tried one product and like it, there's a good chance I'd try more of their stuff. Guess they're so popular they don't need new customers. Which is good, because they're not going to get me as a new customer.

Crusher 08-10-2015 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by meyerweb (Post 1590209723)
Old thread, I know, but I was just shopping for Zaino Z10, and wonder if there's any place to buy it other than direct from Zaino?

I'm not bothered at paying $11 for the product. But to then have to pay another $12 to ship one small bottle of product is outrageous. I could put that in a box and ship it USPS priority mail for half that.

Zaino shipping is $10.95 no matter if you order one item or 10. Most don't order just one item I wouldn't think. I bet you could ship it cheaper. Using a used box from amazon, some newspaper, and scotch tape. You don't have to have a facility to pack it in, pay some one to do it, pay there benefits and vacation, etc. At $10.95 flat rate shipping I would bet Zaino loses a substantial amount of money in shipping every year. I payed $6.95 to get a KEY shipped to me that came in an envelope. The key cost $.95 cents. Shipping isn't as cheap for businesses as you think it is.

meyerweb 08-10-2015 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Crusher (Post 1590240093)
Zaino shipping is $10.95 no matter if you order one item or 10. Most don't order just one item I wouldn't think. I bet you could ship it cheaper. Using a used box from amazon, some newspaper, and scotch tape. You don't have to have a facility to pack it in, pay some one to do it, pay there benefits and vacation, etc. At $10.95 flat rate shipping I would bet Zaino loses a substantial amount of money in shipping every year. I payed $6.95 to get a KEY shipped to me that came in an envelope. The key cost $.95 cents. Shipping isn't as cheap for businesses as you think it is.

I've done lots of shipping for a business. I have a pretty good idea what it costs, including the discounts businesses get and the costs of labor and packaging. And I also know it doesn't cost as much to ship 1 8 oz bottle as to ship a gallon of multiple products. Even when you factor in labor.

Like I said, Zaino didn't try to justify the cost, they just said they have a flat rate because most customers order multiple products. Take it or leave it. If they offered a lower price for small shipments, or for new customers, they would have sold me something. Instead they sold me nothing, and I won't become a customer.

Kvothe 08-10-2015 08:53 PM

$10.95 does seem like a lot to pay for shipping until you really think about it. Zaino uses quality boxes and packing material all of which come at a price. Fed Ex's lowest rate is $6.61 for a one pound package. When you add it all up I'd guess they have a good $8 in it at minimum. Even if they get a discount off shipping $10.95 really isn't that bad.

I agree it does suck when you need one thing or only want to try out one product. The only option you really have is to find others who use it and are needing to place an order or use something that is available locally.

Crusher 08-11-2015 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by meyerweb (Post 1590242431)
I've done lots of shipping for a business. I have a pretty good idea what it costs, including the discounts businesses get and the costs of labor and packaging. And I also know it doesn't cost as much to ship 1 8 oz bottle as to ship a gallon of multiple products. Even when you factor in labor.

Like I said, Zaino didn't try to justify the cost, they just said they have a flat rate because most customers order multiple products. Take it or leave it. If they offered a lower price for small shipments, or for new customers, they would have sold me something. Instead they sold me nothing, and I won't become a customer.

Because of your experience with shipping you must know that there are no discounts for ground shipping, only air. Zaino does not ship air and only uses fedex ground and ups ground from what I know.

I would guess customers that want to order only one product are a small fraction of their business. I'm also guessing the customers that order multiple products aren't complaining about the shipping.

You said you didn't want to pay $11 for shipping for a $11 product. What if the product cost $99 but was the same weight and size? Would you then pay $11 for shipping then? It cost the same to ship a one pound of gold as it does one pound of Zaino.....

SLO VETTE 08-21-2015 07:23 AM

this thread's funny because i just posted a new thread asking what's the shelf life of zaino. i have a bottle of z2 and z5 that are at least 4-5 years old, and each is still half full.

my vehicles get detailed typically every 4-5 months or so on average. i used to do them more frequently, but found that a decent coat of properly applied zaino will last at least 4-5 months. i treat my truck like crap and sometimes it doesn't get washed for a couple of months. that includes lousy northeast winters.

using sparingly, as instructed, the stuff lasts A LONG TIME. and yeah it's stupid expensive for a car care product, but it works well and lasts and lasts.....

Grzldvt1 08-22-2015 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by meyerweb (Post 1590242431)
I've done lots of shipping for a business. I have a pretty good idea what it costs, including the discounts businesses get and the costs of labor and packaging. And I also know it doesn't cost as much to ship 1 8 oz bottle as to ship a gallon of multiple products. Even when you factor in labor.

Like I said, Zaino didn't try to justify the cost, they just said they have a flat rate because most customers order multiple products. Take it or leave it. If they offered a lower price for small shipments, or for new customers, they would have sold me something. Instead they sold me nothing, and I won't become a customer.

Have to dive in on this one as I used to do a lot of shipping of Zaino around Northern CA, and $10.95 is a deal.
I just went to Fedex, and priced a .5lb package with my packaging from my shop in Los Gatos, CA(suburb of San Jose/SanFrancisco to Sacramaneto. About 150 miles distance, and it will get there the next day as Fedex does that as default in the San Francisco Bay Area.
The cost was $6.54. Add in a box and packaging for $1.50
That puts us @ $8 even
For me to pack it and make sure it is safe and setup the label, will take 15 minutes. At $10/hour(minimum wage), let's call it $3.00 for my time
So $8 to ship with my packaging, plus the $3 of my time, and bingo the $11.
So let's take my time out of the equation and we are still at $8, and we have not really ensured your package is safe to ship.

Sorry but his $10.95, is not all that bad, but will agree for one item it is hard to swallow. It is sheer physics, it costs this much to ship today.

I have lost customers because they are not willing to pay the shipping costs. To be blunt, not a customer I want, as it will end up costing me money.:toetap:
However I rarely had customers by just one thing, almost all would buy a Z-6 Gloss Enhancer, or Z-7 Car Wash, most bought multiples.
I have stopped shipping products and tell customers to go to the Zainostore, as I cannot beat the shipping costs for a 1lb package of any distance.

Scuba Ghost 08-23-2015 07:10 AM

Wonder if the Zaino people offer or have offered free shipping for xxxx amount purchased?

jashmore1234 08-24-2015 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by bigcypress (Post 1589532624)
i wanted some more zaino products but after looking at prices i just couldn't do it . using them doesn't take much product and they last a reasonable amount of time when applied but $20 for a bottle of z8 , wow .my wife says since i like them i should buy them but i'm an OLD man [remember when a loaf of bread was 17 cents ] and can't get a handle on todays prices . i've done a search in the past looking at other products and keep finding that every one likes something different and don't recall any reference to cost in those posts . interested in thoughts on good products at fair price or comments on zaino as maybe wife is right . NO REJEX comments are necessary as i tried it and gave it away , it is permanently REJECTED here . i appreciate your time , thank you . . . peace

Just get the Zaino's or any other quality product. Any quality product is going to set you back a few dollars.


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