LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!!
 

check this out.
www.suprastore.com

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (r1hooligan)
 

sorry, this is the link
http://www.suprastore.com/lintwinc5vet.html

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (r1hooligan)
 

:bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs

Obviously that C5 is running probably less than 5 psi of boost & it was on pump gas. On the other hand, that supra is running 25+ psi on race gas. Apples to apples please.

After all, who the hell cares about dynos? take it to the track for the real comparison :yesnod:

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (Corvette4ever)
 

They just dont know...lol :lol: I will tell them what is superior.

A LPE TT Vette with a stock bottom end and its a automatic thats puts down 621rwhp. :smash: :smash: I get no turbo lag...V8 power :yesnod:

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (r1hooligan)
 

That was my old T66 Supra 6speed's dynosheet compared to a Stage II LPE Vette convertible 6speed. I happened to race that car with that same Supra and the outcome was not good for the Vette, here's a link to the race story:
http://www.i-supra.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc...57&m=469600457

The car inquestioned was tuned up to 551 RWHP at another dyno shop.

Corvette, that LPE Vette was not down on boost.

DJ, how about 874 RWHP in a stock bottom end Supra:)


[Modified by T66Supra, 10:53 AM 8/22/2002]

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!!
 

When you look at that dyno graph its really obvious why supra's always want to go from a roll. At 3500 rpm it has 160hp verses the corvette's 300hp. I know which one I'd rather drive.

Also, why isnt torque shown on this graph?

Eric

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (T66Supra)
 

T66Supra

874 rwhp is not to bad.......Is 786 rwhp what u ran a 10.4 with?
I ran a 10.3 with only a little over 600 rwhp.....just think if I had 786 rwhp.

Dont get me wrong , your 10.4 is fast I just dont think dyno#'s mean everything.......

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (DJ Self)
 

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Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (DJ Self)
 

DJ, I ran 10.4 and 143.2 MPH on 786 RWHP (I have never ran NOS on the track) on drag radials (lots of spinning) and with a curbweight of 3780 pounds with driver. The 10.4 (at 139.6 MPH) was done in Las Vegas (3000 feet above sea level) on 90+ degree weather. I know you know how much heat affects our cars based on the low 11's your car ran at the Vette and Viper gathering you guys had this last weekend, heat is a bit$h. The 143 MPH was done in AZ at 1300 feet above sea level on ~70 degree weather. My times were all done with a 6speed. Auto Supras are much quicker, Mark Cooper from NJ (I believe it's NJ) did a 10.2 with 660 RWHP at 3700+ pounds on drag radials. Imagine the time I would have ran if I had an auto, the Sp Supra that ran 9.54 @ 14X MPH ran that with less RWHP than I have at about the same weight.

Of course from a roll like that race (the one I listed) 6speeds do better.

Torque curve is shown lower in the page, here's the link:
http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1699_13248540

Low end torque is great to have, but lets just say that running a 10.4 without NOS with my current Supra, which is laggier than that T66 car thus making less low end torque, shows that all you have to do to run a good time is know how to launch, keep the RPM's up and there are no problems, yes even on the street.


[Modified by T66Supra, 12:15 PM 8/22/2002]

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (T66Supra)
 

woop de doo! Makes me want to go out and buy a Supra! :bs Since your comparing, why did you pick that Lingenfelter to compare. :confused: How about the Lingenfelter 427 TT 9.2 1/4 mile and top speed over 225 MPH! :rolleyes: :cheers:

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (racer44)
 

http://www.corvetteforum.cc/zeroimg/...withstupid.gif :smash:

http://www.corvetteforum.cc/zeroimg/...withstupid.gif

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (racer44)
 

Racer, I never said go out and buy a Supra:) That 9.2 @ 151 MPH car is impressive as HE$L, as is Titan Motorsport's 9.0 @ 160 MPH 6speed Supra on drag radials.

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (T66Supra)
 

At the Viper and Vette gathering I ran 11.4 with the boost controller off. :)
Witch is 5 psi. And torque is nice to have....I got over 700 at the wheels. :)

I know that u have a friend with a fast Supra and I know a guy who runs 9.2's back to back with a TT Vette.
I used to have a 1994 Supra back in 94 and it ran 12's @114 mph.(not bad back then)
Supras are nice cars and so are C5 Vettes. I just think the Vette is a better car to drive every day with this kind of HP.(no turbo lag/great from a dead stop/great from a roll/u dont need a big stall or N.O.S/V8 power...
And u can leave the head light in when u race......j/k

The Supra is nice and the Vette is nice.......
:)

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (DJ Self)
 

I agree DJ, although I don't need NOS, a high stall (my car is a 6speed) and have never taken the headlight off my car to race:) (I know you were messing around with the headlight deal) Lag is overrated, with a bit of practice and skill running good #'s and launching a "laggy" car is not that hard, my 10.4 on drag radials shows that, heck I have only had my current car at the track 3 times! Haven't been to the track in a while as I don't have a cage so I always get kicked out. I want to go out and run at higher boost and see if I can do a bit better, the pass after my 143 MPH pass I was going 2 MPH faster on the 1/8th and then missed 4th;( I think that pass would have been 145+ MPH. Unfortunately they kicked me out of the track so I didn't get another pass:(

I agree, Torque is very nice to have, I also have 700+ RWTQ at my disposal on NOS, or over 600 RWTQ off NOS:)

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (T66Supra)
 

Hehe, nice comeback. :cheers: :cool:

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (2000^C5)
 

I bet that car has nowhere the allaround capabilities of the LPE. Top speed, driveability, gas mileage, running pump fuel, non rice respect etc. etc. etc. etc.
:smash: :cheers:

By the way that LPE had 70 more MPH availablee on top end, how much more did the Supra have?........I didn't think so. :cheers:

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (racer44)
 

Lets not turn this into a pi$$ing contest :D :cheers:

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (racer44)
 

Lets see, my BPU Supra at 400.8 RWHP went 185 MPH and had some left when I let off, it was an auto too. My current car has another 376 RWHP off bottle and with a 7800 RPM redline the theoretical top speed at redline in 6th is ~235 MPH. The Greddy Supra in Japan went 229 MPH at 675 HP (their claims) at the wheels (675 PS actually) on a T78 turbo (T78's max out at ~650 to 675 RWHP), stock bodied, even had the same front lip as my car:)

As far as gas mileage, I don't care much about that but my supra gets ~18 MPG around town and 25+ on the freeway, not the greatest but good enough for me. Also that Vette that went 9.2 was tested on race gas:) Some people on this forum know about that. Not that I care as I run race gas all the time (40 to 50% race gas) as my friend's gas station 10 minutes from my house has 101 unleaded at the pump. Driveability on my car, as with most turbo cars, is awesome, idles great and off boost is as docile as a Camry, when the boost kicks is when all hell breaks lose.


[Modified by T66Supra, 2:18 PM 8/22/2002]

Re: LPE TT c5 vs supra turbo dyno!! (O-Ace)
 

O-Ace, I agree with you 100%:)