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yzguyfl 12-15-2015 06:13 PM

63 split window + 98Z28 LS1&T56
 
This is going to take me QUITE a while to get all together, as it needs a lot of work, and I only have so much time and money, but I am finally starting this now.

I remember when I was 6 (40 now), my dad had a red 64 vert (fairly nice driver), that is me in the back

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...5611b2886d.jpg


and traded it for a 63 with a bit of damage (I thought he was crazy).

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...421e79a186.jpg


Soon after we drove it to Illinois (from Florida) where this pic was taken

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...123f537c3b.jpg


When I was in high school, my dad took it to the drag strip, just to see what it would do (I don’t recall what it ran).
Something in the harness shorted out at the track, and he bypassed the whole harness, ran a hot wire to the distributor and ran it at the track

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...ae05518807.jpg


Then it sat for the next 25ish years

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...8e429192a9.jpg

Now I have it, and finally have some time a money to see what I can do with it. I bought a running driving (drove it home 3.5 hours) 98 Z28 with a T56 to donate its organs to the vette.
So far the plan is to use the stock frame (powder coated)
Ride tech suspension (level II kit with front sway bar, just ordered)
LS1 from the Z (not sure what I may upgrade in the motor, maybe heads, intake cam depends on $)
T56, after rebuild (at least needs synchro’s)
Removing every piece of wire on the car
Replacing with updated wiring harness from American Autowire, they are releasing in about a month
Going to try to keep as much of the stock interior for now, as it is not too bad.
Vintage air AC

For a bunch of pics:
http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...l=5&MaxRow=400

general idea will be a nice driver that I can get 20+ mpg, reliable and fun to drive.

I may not be the BEST car to start out with, but I’ve known it for 34 years, so I’m going to work with what I’ve got.

So far I have:
Pulled the (non original) 350 and Muncie from the vette
Pulled the LS1 & T56 from the Z
Ordered some parts  (engine mounts, headers, ride-tech susp, radiator)

yzguyfl 12-15-2015 06:13 PM

it was like an early Christmas today :) Got the suspension and headers in today.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...6fc1ee719f.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...48128a214d.jpg

Body off:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...1fa423693f.jpg

and donor motor/trany:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2013b60d19.jpg

test fit in the bare frame:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...dd3f4219f9.jpg

yzguyfl 12-15-2015 06:14 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...e7b0c4038c.jpg

Off to VanSteel to get straightened and 2 sections welded in


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new frame sections

yzguyfl 12-15-2015 06:14 PM

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I got the frame welded up and started fully filling in the factory stitch welds.

I had Vansteel rebuild the center diff with a rebuilt posi, 4.11 gears, 31 spline output shafts, Chromoly half shafts, half shaft safety loops, also had them set up my ridetech trailing arms with 31 spline axles, and mounted up the rear brake mounts from my 98Z28. I had to open up the center hole in the caliper brackets, make the center flat area a little larger, and drill 4 new holes, but then it lines up great, and the Z28 rotors match up well with the calipers.

I also ended up using the lx Innovations adjustable motor mount adapter plates with the motor mounted as far back as possible, to move the weight back as far as I can, and to give me as much clearance for the blower up front as I can. This moved the transmission (T56) mount to the middle of the transmission tunnel. I cut out the center section of the cross member, and welded in the plates to make it removable, then cut out a center chunk and welded in step to mount the transmission to

I did not end up using the muscle rods motor or transmission mount at all, it placed the motor to far forward for the blower to fit. If you are trying to fit an LS with a T56 into a stock frame, and don't want to cut into the transmission cross member, then this would work out fine, you HAVE to move it that far forward, or you need to cut into the cross member. Also note, if anyone uses this mount on an early C2 (I think just 63, 64) they do NOT have a cutout in the cross member in front of the motor meant for the BB ballancer, and where the motor is positioned, a stock 63-64 frame will be almost touching the ballancer of the LS motor, so close that you can't even get the belt on and off. (I was going to notch my cross member)

yzguyfl 12-15-2015 06:14 PM

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saved for future pics.....

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yzguyfl 12-15-2015 06:15 PM

saved for future pics........

SJW 12-15-2015 06:56 PM

Let the fun begin. Should be a great project for you!

Live well,

SJW

SupremeDeluxe 12-15-2015 07:07 PM

Great pics and love the history. Rust being what it shows on the B-pillar and drip rails, a thorough inspection of the windshield frame would be a good starting point before you get too far into the project:cheers:

yzguyfl 12-15-2015 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by SupremeDeluxe (Post 1591120927)
Great pics and love the history. Rust being what it shows on the B-pillar and drip rails, a thorough inspection of the windshield frame would be a good starting point before you get too far into the project:cheers:

on that note, how do you fix the rusted through areas on the B pillars? are there replacements?

I'll likely be farming out much of the body work, but trying to do the mechanical work first.

Revfan 12-16-2015 01:13 AM

You got your work cut out for you.... but we are all pulling for you man!

http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/Vette/SANY0576.jpg

Revfan 12-16-2015 01:22 AM

Also...

I checked out the American Autowire site to see what their Dash harness update was going to include.

Longer dash light leads I hope... got any info? Their site didn't say much.

mudbone64 12-16-2015 08:06 AM

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but won't the transmission tunnel have to be cut/modified/re-shaped before that T56 will fit?

rayvaflav 12-16-2015 08:36 AM

Based on the existing mounting hardware you would not be able to use this particular a/c unit on a '64-'67 coupe, it appears to be a one-year specific assembly.

http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/Vette/20151215_135351.jpg

Ray

MidShark 12-16-2015 08:59 AM

Very cool that it's been in the family all this time. Good luck getting it where you want it and back on the road.:thumbs:

j_66chevelle 12-16-2015 10:49 AM

yes it will
 

Originally Posted by mudbone64 (Post 1591123572)
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but won't the transmission tunnel have to be cut/modified/re-shaped before that T56 will fit?

it will



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...133628e60e.jpg

mudbone64 12-16-2015 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by j_66chevelle (Post 1591124637)

It seems like I remember seeing that very picture before. If T56s could be used without modification to the tunnel I'd own one right now. As a matter of fact I'd say there would be a lot fewer TKO installations if T56s would fit.

Solid Axle Guy 12-16-2015 06:48 PM

What drag strip is that yzguyfi?

yzguyfl 12-16-2015 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by Revfan (Post 1591122928)
Also...

I checked out the American Autowire site to see what their Dash harness update was going to include.

Longer dash light leads I hope... got any info? Their site didn't say much.

the guy on the phone did not give me too many specifics, just that it will include all the wire ends, and bulb holders like a stock replacement harness would, but use newer fuses, and have additional circuits for things like power windows, fans power locks, ect.



Originally Posted by mudbone64 (Post 1591123572)
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but won't the transmission tunnel have to be cut/modified/re-shaped before that T56 will fit?

I thought so too. (even though they told me I would not have to) I have the motor and trans out now, will be separating the body soon, then when I get in the new mounts, going to put in the motor, lower the body, and see what hits.



Originally Posted by rayvaflav (Post 1591123718)
Based on the existing mounting hardware you would not be able to use this particular a/c unit on a '64-'67 coupe, it appears to be a one-year specific assembly.

http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/Vette/20151215_135351.jpg

Ray

yeah, I'm pretty sure my dad did that, way before vintage air. It did have AC though!



Originally Posted by mudbone64 (Post 1591125351)
It seems like I remember seeing that very picture before. If T56s could be used without modification to the tunnel I'd own one right now. As a matter of fact I'd say there would be a lot fewer TKO installations if T56s would fit.

I was prepaired to mess with it already. I saw where someone cut out the stock one, raised it 2 inches, and filled the gap. I was thinking of trying that. This example may be beyond my skill level (but I think I can fill a gap :) )


Originally Posted by Solid Axle Guy (Post 1591127792)
What drag strip is that yzguyfi?

Brdenton motor sports in FL

firstgear 12-17-2015 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by mudbone64 (Post 1591123572)
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but won't the transmission tunnel have to be cut/modified/re-shaped before that T56 will fit?

With the SRIII chassis, yes it does have to be opened up slightly, but modified none the less.

yzguyfl 12-17-2015 08:34 PM

staying with the stock frame, we will see what kind of clearance issues I have soon.


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