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CONMAX 12-22-2015 12:06 AM

Short roll race Hellcat
 
While driving on hwy 118 toward Simi Valley, I saw a red Dodge come up in the commute lane. I was in the next lane at the time and when he got close enough to recognize that I had a Z06, he quickly moved over 2 lanes and came along side me. It was pretty obvious that this was a young Hellcat owner looking for a race.

In the 8 months since I have owned my Z06/7 with an A8, I have not raced anyone on the street, preferring the drag strip. I have taken it 4 times to the close by SoCal strips and run a best of 11.04 @ 126mph. Since then, I have installed a Halltech CAI, which should add some power.

When this guy got along side me, he slowed some and really wanted me to race. With no cops detected on my Radar, I nailed it at about 60. I think I got a slight jump on him and he didn't gain b4 slowing for traffic.

He then moved back to the commute lane (not legal with only the driver) and wanted to race again. This time he got a slight jump on me and I wasn't closing any ground b4 slowing for traffic.

Both these runs were from about 60-100 and the cars seemed about equal. I have no doubt that the Z is faster in the 1/4 with better traction. In a roll race, these Hellcats are at least a match for the Z despite weighing about 1k lbs more.

No videos, this wasn't planned, and is not something I would seek out.
I can somewhat rationalize doing this on the freeway as being almost the same as I do almost every time I drive the Z on a freeway. Other than risking a nasty ticket, I don't think it is all that dangerous to accelerate your car from about 60- 100 if there is little traffic each time you drive it. After all, isn't that part of the reason we bought a Z?

wonka12_98 12-22-2015 12:17 AM

Just an FYI, in California street racing is a Felony! Had a co-worker find this out recently.




Originally Posted by CONMAX (Post 1591163333)
While driving on hwy 118 toward Simi Valley, I saw a red Dodge come up in the commute lane. I was in the next lane at the time and when he got close enough to recognize that I had a Z06, he quickly moved over 2 lanes and came along side me. It was pretty obvious that this was a young Hellcat owner looking for a race.

In the 8 months since I have owned my Z06/7 with an A8, I have not raced anyone on the street, preferring the drag strip. I have taken it 4 times to the close by SoCal strips and run a best of 11.04 @ 126mph. Since then, I have installed a Halltech CAI, which should add some power.

When this guy got along side me, he slowed some and really wanted me to race. With no cops detected on my Radar, I nailed it at about 60. I think I got a slight jump on him and he didn't gain b4 slowing for traffic.

He then moved back to the commute lane (not legal with only the driver) and wanted to race again. This time he got a slight jump on me and I wasn't closing any ground b4 slowing for traffic.

Both these runs were from about 60-100 and the cars seemed about equal. I have no doubt that the Z is faster in the 1/4 with better traction. In a roll race, these Hellcats are at least a match for the Z despite weighing about 1k lbs more.

No videos, this wasn't planned, and is not something I would seek out.
I can somewhat rationalize doing this on the freeway as being almost the same as I do almost every time I drive the Z on a freeway. Other than risking a nasty ticket, I don't think it is all that dangerous to accelerate your car from about 60- 100 if there is little traffic each time you drive it. After all, isn't that part of the reason we bought a Z?


Jpjr2016 12-22-2015 12:23 AM

Call Haltech for a refund, you should have walked that dude making 690+ flywheel hp. :)

NORCAL-SS 12-22-2015 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by wonka12_98 (Post 1591163385)
Just an FYI, in California street racing is a Felony! Had a co-worker find this out recently.

it been like that for years that being said we just had the big norcal street race shootout here recently. Bayarea racing on youtube we had great runs!!!

v jet 12-22-2015 12:53 AM

I learned the hard way
 
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I had multiple run-ins with law 35 plus years ago, street racing. I ended up racing IHRA and went to work for my attorney and ended up owning his law practice. Sure paid off; I have seven whips now.:rofl:

DLC7 12-22-2015 12:56 AM

Simi- 2nd safest city in the nation...haz many coppers....Yer brave man!!!


Nice Pic!

NORCAL-SS 12-22-2015 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by v jet (Post 1591163525)
I had multiple run-ins with law 35 plus years ago, street racing. I ended up racing IHRA and went to work for my attorney and ended up owning his law practice. Sure paid off; I have seven whips now.:rofl:


We still have fun out there in our safe areas and I like testing out items i sell for the z06 at these events as well as on the track. I got into the union for the city of san francisco almost 20 years ago and it paid off for me too. Congrats on your practice.

3 Z06ZR1 12-22-2015 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by Jpjr2016 (Post 1591163412)
Call Haltech for a refund, you should have walkes that dude making 690+ flywheel hp.

Call someone who has clue then post! :rofl:
You have no idea if that Hell cat was stock.
Then maybe an M7 would have been better! :lol:

BTCorvette 12-22-2015 08:28 AM

The Problem is this guys C7 Z06, has the Z07 package, which is not good in drag racing or racing all out on the freeway, to much down force, kills top end speed.. beside all of that , it is not worth going to jail street racing .... do it at the track ..
and be safe and enjoy your car
😎

mowe 12-22-2015 09:01 AM

I've owned both....

Hellcst makes 800 crank HP... Mine made 686whp.

The intake you have with the out a tune may help a little. Your results seem on par.

They both are very strong cars and the Hellcat once moving pulls hard up top. He stage 3 Aero will also hurt you on the highway.

Be safe out there...

Busa Dave 12-22-2015 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by BTCorvette (Post 1591164187)
The Problem is this guys C7 Z06, has the Z07 package, which is not good in drag racing or racing all out on the freeway, to much down force, kills top end speed.. beside all of that , it is not worth going to jail street racing .... do it at the track ..
and be safe and enjoy your car
😎




YES--this is why the splitter and the bill are being removed. Am doing extensive engine modifications and do not need that bling on my car to slow it down.

Hemi Dave 12-22-2015 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by mowe (Post 1591164354)
I've owned both....

Hellcst makes 800 crank HP... Mine made 686whp.

The intake you have with the out a tune may help a little. Your results seem on par.

They both are very strong cars and the Hellcat once moving pulls hard up top. He stage 3 Aero will also hurt you on the highway.

...

This...................

6Speeder 12-22-2015 02:24 PM

I raced a stock auto Hellcat with my M7 with Z07 package (but on MPSS tires) and Halltech CKNZ. Three races, one from 45 mph, one from 60 mph, and from a standing start, lifting by 90 ish. I won all three. From a dig he spun worse than me, by the top of second gear I had him by three + cars.

I now have the 9% pulley and Halltech, making 654/690 SAE and raced him again, this time at the drag strip, beat him by .5 - .7 sec every time.
:rock:

ramyk 12-22-2015 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by CONMAX (Post 1591163333)

In the 8 months since I have owned my Z06/7 with an A8, I have not raced anyone on the street, preferring the drag strip. I have taken it 4 times to the close by SoCal strips and run a best of 11.04 @ 126mph. Since then, I have installed a Halltech CAI, which should add some power.

A little off topic here but would you mind pointing me in the direction of these 1/4 drag strips? Only one I could find close to me in SoCal is Irwindale which is 1/8th mile.

Trash 12-22-2015 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by ramyk (Post 1591166875)
A little off topic here but would you mind pointing me in the direction of these 1/4 drag strips? Only one I could find close to me in SoCal is Irwindale which is 1/8th mile.

Autoclub Dragway in Fontana. 2016 Street Legal races and test and tune schedule should be out shortly. Cheapest day of fun you can have.

ramyk 12-22-2015 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Trash (Post 1591167142)
Autoclub Dragway in Fontana. 2016 Street Legal races and test and tune schedule should be out shortly. Cheapest day of fun you can have.

Sounds awesome, I'll look into it. Thanks!

BTCorvette 12-22-2015 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Busa Dave (Post 1591164810)
YES--this is why the splitter and the bill are being removed. Am doing extensive engine modifications and do not need that bling on my car to slow it down.

I agree.. Z07 package is great at the track, but most owners drag race their cars.. that why I got the base model C7 Z06 A8, it
has Less Down Force.. but in a good way..., 😎
good luck fixing your car the way you want that makes you happy

CONMAX 12-22-2015 09:35 PM

Thanks for the felony refresher! I never knew that.

I have run at both Famosa and Fontana. Lowest DA was 3400.

I have tried racing w/w/o the rear stage 3 center section. Made no measurable difference. The 11.04 run was with the rear splitter in place. In a roll race from 60-90 mph, the aero does not affect the acceleration.

One of the reasons I moved to Simi years ago, was the high percentage of LAPD residents. Several are neighbors and one has gone to the drags and HPDE events with me. They don't, however patrol the 118 outside of town. That's the job of the CHP.

As stated, the Z06 is faster at the drags, but it will have trouble in most roll races. I have no idea if the kid had a stock Hellcat, just that he was eager.

emericr 12-22-2015 09:37 PM

Great encounter and outcome sounds about right. Forget about the naysayers about not racing on the streets...

kenw 12-22-2015 09:46 PM

To bad you didn't have a heads and cam C6Z, wouldn't even been close. Spank the kitty. :hide:


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