Spoiler alert WEATHER TECH LONG BEACH RACE
 

I'm going to talk about today's race so if you don't want to participate don't enter this discussion. What did the rest of you think about the last few minutes?

That was a crappy ending...

The Porsche team has taken a Corvette out of two races. The Porsche Team needs to be punished with a MAJOR points reduction at the least. I would also consider a "team" disqualification for the race.

If there was any radio chatter among the Porsche team -- I'd agree with you.

Otherwise it's just another "racing incident" -- and the offending
Porsche penalized himself.
Remember these are the same teammates that took each other out of last year's Rolex 24.

Another alternative (don't know if IMSA rule book addresses this) -- a starting grid penalty could be isssued
for the next race.

Squatting toad racing (I mean Porsche) always seems to be the teams involved in taking out the Vettes. Remember what was done to Magnussun at Laguna a few years back. Their drivers can't pass at the end of race without wrecking the competition.

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, that looked blatantly intentional. Makowiecki didn't plan on taking himself out, but wanted to spin the Corvette and get past him. Intentional or not, it was a bush-league move. Look at these pics. Milner in the Corvette and Tandy in the second Porsche were on the proper line for that turn. Makowiecki wasn't even close.

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I'm getting tired of these NASCAR type moves by Porsche. It simply has happened too often to be a coincidence. We're talking about a very competent and professional racing team here. It was obvious that by taking the leading Corvette out one of the Porsche cars would win. Why can't the IMSA officials see that? Do we want NASCAR endings with drivers throwing helmets at each other? I really want to hear Doug Fehan's take on this.

:toetap:

until Capt Farfegnugen in the 912 tried, everyone during the whole race took the same line though that turn..............

IMSA homepage calls this a "last lap pass" for the 911...........


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Totally uncalled for. What line was the 912 supposed to even be taking? He would've had a horribly slow exit, entering that turn toward the inside line. That was intentional for certain and the lack of team assessed penalty there is pretty ridiculous.

It'll be interesting to see if Corvette retaliates next race.

That was a huge upset for the professionalism of the 912 team.

Did anyone pay attention to the best race lap of both of the Ford GT's?:eek:

They are not even looking for wins, and it shows in the pits. That's a well disciplined pit crew just puttering around. They are getting the cars ready for du Mans.

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http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/what-w...ing-1771447250

What really happened:

The Corvette was a tad too fast on corner exit in the previous corner and got squirrely, this caused him to drift out to the left a bit AND caused him to overslow.

The Corvette "Opened the door, driver's right" and the Porsche tried to put his nose in there to see if there would be an advantage on corner exit.

If the Corvette would have gone full throttle a couple of feet earlier (where he normally would have), he wouldn't have gotten tapped.

As someone else said, just a racing incident.

:iagree: with the NASCAR endings, I didn't watch Grand Am but caught the finishes on Speed Center? when Speed was on and they often seemed to promote the bump and run finish.

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I'm not seeing that. If the 912 had been on line, and if the the Corvette was even a tad wide in the turn, I'd buy your statement. There is no way on earth that Porsche is making that turn at that speed on that line.

Here's Racer Magazine's assessment of the incident. Racer is rarely this bold describing on track incidents.


"The No. 911 Porsche North America Porsche 911 RSR driven by Nick Tandy and Patrick Pilet were handed the GTLM win after teammate Fred Makowiecki, driving the No. 912 entry, cheated Corvette Racing's Tommy Milner out of the win by hitting and spinning the No. 4 C7.R in the Turn 11 hairpin with two minutes remaining.
Whether Makowiecki's half-hearted move was phenomenally stupid or intentionally underhanded, the end result left the Corvette parked backward and blocked, and gave Tandy a clear lane to motor by and inherit the win. Once Milner was able to get moving, he took a distant second as the driver of the No. 912 was summoned to the pits by IMSA to pay for his sins."


Gary

must been the extra 10kg Corvette picked up after Seabring that caused it to spin.........

or the lack of the 10kg that cause the Porsche to tumble unbalanced into the hairpin.........


IMSA blows.

Watch the in-car video from the Porsche (which I did live).

First thing I said was "Ah crap" then "Too wide" and that was before the Corvette entered the corner (coming out of the previous corner).
That the Porsche went full right to try and take advantage of that opening and make it a drag race at corner exit is what any race driver would do.

Was the Porsche going in there too hot? Maybe but the Corvette was in there slower than normal.

I don't fault the Corvette at all, these things happen when you're driving at 110%.

not to start a argument, but the 911 is in the tire tracks of the Corvette, so how was the Corvette too wide........... the camera in the 912 is in the 912, therefore if the 912 is too far inside, the Corvette will look to be wide........