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Jack Reak 08-25-2016 03:16 PM

New C3.... is this an issue?
 
Hello, I am new to Corvettes so I am sorry if this is a dumb question. I just got this car and I discovered there is no lower valance or air dam below the car. Is this going to be an issue for cooling? Is driving without it going to hurt the car?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d1e8042382.jpg

SwampeastMike 08-25-2016 03:31 PM

Lack of the air dam will definitely cause it to run hotter. Not a good idea to drive for long at highway speed in hot weather.

billschroeder5842 08-25-2016 03:50 PM

Yeah, probably want to pick one up. Good air flow is pretty important on these cars

Jack Reak 08-25-2016 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by billschroeder5842 (Post 1592923132)
Yeah, probably want to pick one up. Good air flow is pretty important on these cars

Would I need to buy the lower valance then too?

SwampeastMike 08-25-2016 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Reak (Post 1592923165)
Would I need to buy the lower valance then too?

Yes. The air dam attaches to the rear of the valance so it can't be installed without it.

Jack Reak 08-25-2016 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by SwampeastMike (Post 1592923195)
Yes. The air dam attaches to the rear of the valance so it can't be installed without it.

Thank you!

Jack Reak 08-25-2016 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by SwampeastMike (Post 1592923195)
Yes. The air dam attaches to the rear of the valance so it can't be installed without it.

I don't suppose you have a picture of the underside of your car from the front?

TimAT 08-25-2016 04:06 PM

I don't know if it will be an issue for your car, but my 69 BB car looks like this- and never had any problems with overheating after I removed the front license plate and bracket.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/DSC00111.jpg

Jack Reak 08-25-2016 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by TimAT (Post 1592923295)
I don't know if it will be an issue for your car, but my 69 BB car looks like this- and never had any problems with overheating after I removed the front license plate and bracket.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/DSC00111.jpg

Okay thank you. I like the car lift by the way!:cheers:

Jebbysan 08-25-2016 04:14 PM

When I was a young teen (circa 1984)......my father had a 77' that was missing the front air dam.......car would run 210 or so going down the E-way........
A friend suggested putting the lip spoiler back on and he did.....temp dropped 20 degrees....:eek:
There is a reason it is on there :thumbs:

Jebby

SwampeastMike 08-25-2016 04:19 PM

Here's a picture. I hope it's good enough as it's blazing hot this afternoon and I don't feel like jacking up the front of the car ;)

Notice how the air dam forces air up through the holes in the valance.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...c152420ebd.jpg

Peterbuilt 08-25-2016 04:25 PM

Hi and Welcome!
 
Hi Jack,
Looks like you need 3 & 6.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...psec8wdef2.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...psvorahdyf.jpg

There should be some rubber seals that cover the top bottom and sides on the radiator, they help keep the air flow.

And it looks like you need a new lower radiator hose.
Pete.

Jack Reak 08-25-2016 04:32 PM

Thank you so much guys!!

7T1vette 08-25-2016 05:58 PM

Here's the 'skinny':

The design of the cooling system has airflow directed upward through the lower valance and into the radiator by that [vinyl] air dam. So, yes, it is important to get the needed airflow into the radiator. With all the headlamp gizmos and other stuff in front, there isn't enough frontal area for air input directly, so the lower path was needed also.

Right now your valence area is completely open. If you had something to deflect air upward into the radiator, you really wouldn't need the valence panel [for functional reasons, anyway]. If you don't have an air dam when you are on the highway, the airflow ACROSS the valence opening might actually pull air OUT of the engine compartment and cooling would be quite restricted.

SwampeastMike 08-25-2016 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by 7T1vette (Post 1592924213)
Here's the 'skinny':

The design of the cooling system has airflow directed upward through the lower valance and into the radiator by that [vinyl] air dam. So, yes, it is important to get the needed airflow into the radiator. With all the headlamp gizmos and other stuff in front, there isn't enough frontal area for air input directly, so the lower path was needed also.

Right now your valence area is completely open. If you had something to deflect air upward into the radiator, you really wouldn't need the valence panel [for functional reasons, anyway]. If you don't have an air dam when you are on the highway, the airflow ACROSS the valence opening might actually pull air OUT of the engine compartment and cooling would be quite restricted.

:iagree:

That's exactly why I suggested against highway driving without the assembly! While I suspect that the valance is a rather expensive part its prime function is to support the air dam. While I suppose you could rig something to direct air up through the radiator don't forget that it must resist the flow of air at high velocity.

wendellp601 08-25-2016 07:40 PM

For the underbody parts, I would install #3 from sheet 2 along with #3 and #6 from sheet 3 from the AIM sheets that Peterbuilt posted.
Here's a pic of my '77 with all 3 items installed.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...f60de862f4.png

Like the others said, when you reinstall the radiator make sure to install the foam seals around it.

Good luck with your project.


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