Richmond 5 speed and slip yoke advise please
Hi I'm ordering a driveshaft for my '67 w/ a Richmond 5 Speed trans and found that I need to have the slip yoke to be 3/8" or less off of the tail housing for it to clear the transmission tunnel but was told by the shop that at least 1/2" is needed for the install. Has anyone install 1350 sized slip yokes in the car with less than 1/2" clearance?
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I would think it would be ok in our application since we do not have a floating rear end. However it may make it impossible to get the driveshaft into the yokes without moving the engine forward or the rear end back.
I am slightly behind you. I am putting a Richmond with the Moser 1350 yoke in my 69. Am wondering if it will fit. |
Which RG 5spd are you installing? The non-OD RG uses a stock driveshaft with a Corvette T400 yoke. Have one in my 65. Then use a combination u-joint to the stock shaft. The u-joint for the yoke is 1330 and the shaft is a 1310. Half shafts are 1350.
http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p377...t_3_732_x.html Tom The 69 may already have the 2 1/2 driveshaft and already use 1330 joint stock. The combination joint is not needed. |
Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594105105)
I would think it would be ok in our application since we do not have a floating rear end. However it may make it impossible to get the driveshaft into the yokes without moving the engine forward or the rear end back.
I am slightly behind you. I am putting a Richmond with the Moser 1350 yoke in my 69. Am wondering if it will fit. At trans yoke before fiberglass work https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...bd2f1c56d3.jpg Fiberglass area at trans tunnel Not a great photo I showing how hot the curing fiberglass got. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...6edc81332d.jpg At rear seat belt reinforments https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...909a36675e.jpg Yoke at rear end photo https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...7f58ee4621.jpg |
Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594105105)
I would think it would be ok in our application since we do not have a floating rear end. However it may make it impossible to get the driveshaft into the yokes without moving the engine forward or the rear end back.
I am slightly behind you. I am putting a Richmond with the Moser 1350 yoke in my 69. Am wondering if it will fit. 1. have more than 1/2 inch clearance between end seal and yoke and modify tunnel. 2. have 3/8 inch clearance and take chances on the install, and could it be possible to find enough clearance by rotating the DS so it would lear the flange from the diff? If nothing works then move rear end out of the way, install DS, then put rear end back. Doesn't option #2 appear to be better? |
That is a good point on which Richmond it is. Mine is the 4+1. It seems like the guys with yokes not fitting the tunnel, are the Overdrives that stick farther back into the tunnel. I assume yours is a Muncie Dave? What made you need the removable Crossmember? I definitely want to run 1350 yokes on both tranny and rear end. Thanks for the pics. Wonder if the 66 and 69 tunnel are the same.
To the op, don't know which to do. It might be a real pain in the ass to move that differential but maybe since it won't have to be done very often. Is yours running into the parking brake stuff? And which 5 speed do you have? |
Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594109211)
That is a good point on which Richmond it is. Mine is the 4+1. It seems like the guys with yokes not fitting the tunnel, are the Overdrives that stick farther back into the tunnel. I assume yours is a Muncie Dave? I definitely want to run 1350 yokes on both tranny and rear end.
Bruce, don't know which to do. It might be a real pain in the ass to move that differential but maybe since it won't have to be done very often. Is yours running into the parking brake stuff? And which 5 speed do you have? Tom |
Tom, yes you are right. 69 4 speeds are 1310. Turbo 400's are 1330. My diff is currently with Tracdogg and he is building me a heavy duty 10 bolt with the 1350 yoke. So with the 1350 trans yoke I will order a driveshaft after getting it all in the car. Sorry for the confusion.
Bill |
Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594109211)
To the op, don't know which to do. It might be a real pain in the ass to move that differential but maybe since it won't have to be done very often. Is yours running into the parking brake stuff? And which 5 speed do you have?
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Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594109277)
Tom, yes you are right. 69 4 speeds are 1310. Turbo 400's are 1330. My diff is currently with Tracdogg and he is building me a heavy duty 10 bolt with the 1350 yoke. So with the 1350 trans yoke I will order a driveshaft after getting it all in the car. Sorry for the confusion.
Bill No worries I am easily confused. :ack: :cheers: Tom |
Originally Posted by BruZe06
(Post 1594109323)
My trans is the 1:1 Road Race version. And as to moving the diff, maybe the bolts will only have to be loosened and allow some play for the DS to drop into place? It may not be that bad, I just need to gather up enough courage before ordering that DS. :willy:
Tom |
Originally Posted by Sky65
(Post 1594109391)
Why are you ordering a driveshaft? Are you also using a special diff as well?
Tom |
Originally Posted by BruZe06
(Post 1594109469)
I bought a project car that didn't come w/ a DS but a very nicely built motor 427 so I thought maybe I'll get a beefier DS than OEM. OEM DS is also 27 spline I believe but the Richmond is 32.
:cheers: Tom |
Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594109211)
That is a good point on which Richmond it is. Mine is the 4+1. It seems like the guys with yokes not fitting the tunnel, are the Overdrives that stick farther back into the tunnel. I assume yours is a Muncie Dave? What made you need the removable Crossmember? I definitely want to run 1350 yokes on both tranny and rear end. Thanks for the pics. Wonder if the 66 and 69 tunnel are the same.
To the op, don't know which to do. It might be a real pain in the ass to move that differential but maybe since it won't have to be done very often. Is yours running into the parking brake stuff? And which 5 speed do you have? It is a Autogear M22, so yes just like a regular Muncie my trans tunnel is pretty straight back so another 1" or 2" farther back I would still need to do the fiberglass work. I have no idea if your car is similar as my C2. In order to get the driveshaft past the rear cross member and the studs for the seat belt reinforcements you need to angle it back. The angle in which you need puts the driveshaft in conflict with the trans cross member. If I had to do it over I'd do a 2 1/2" or 2 3/4" O.D. driveshaft. That extra little room is very helpful. Obviously the 1350 joints are the same regardless of what O.D. driveshaft you use. |
Ah gotcha, thanks Dave. I don't know if you remember me Dave, but I bought a 62 340hp intake from you. You had just pulled the body on the 66 when I was there. Glad to hear you got it done!
Bill |
Originally Posted by 69ttop502
(Post 1594109828)
Ah gotcha, thanks Dave. I don't know if you remember me Dave, but I bought a 62 340hp intake from you. You had just pulled the body on the 66 when I was there. Glad to hear you got it done!
Bill |
I will definitely check it out!
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Originally Posted by Sky65
(Post 1594109516)
Ah. Again I was off base. Sorry. But....As stated in the other posts you are creating clearance issues and additional expense. If you have stock or near stock tires you won't find enough traction to need larger than stock driveshaft or yokes. JMO
:cheers: Tom With close to 600 HP/Ft-LB, I was told by a couple places regular C2 DS's they sell won't be able to handle the power. Here's a picture of the BEAST on the left w/ 275's in the front and 315's on back.... I'm ordering a 2.5" DS w/ .12" thick wall steel shaft for the car, just want to triple measure before ordering. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...845017c03e.jpg |
Oh and what about shifting the trans a little to the driver's side as the yoke is only rubbing on the passenger side of the tunnel? After shifting, would the DS still within alignment angles allowed?
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Originally Posted by BruZe06
(Post 1594111341)
Hi Sky,
With close to 600 HP/Ft-LB, I was told by a couple places regular C2 DS's they sell won't be able to handle the power. Here's a picture of the BEAST on the left w/ 275's in the front and 315's on back.... I'm ordering a 2.5" DS w/ .12" thick wall steel shaft for the car, just want to triple measure before ordering. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...845017c03e.jpg :cheers: Tom |
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