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silvrhand 03-20-2017 11:30 AM

Add me to the new engine list
 
Well expensive weekend for me..

- car oil pressure dropped
- oil temp started to rise..
- and rod started knocking..

Oil looks like graphite.. joy.. Car was 2 quarts low on oil, and I don't have a leak looking for suggestions on where the oil went.. underneath the car is clean as a whistle..

- John

Durien512 03-20-2017 11:38 AM

damn.. sorry to hear man.... is there oil in intake, TB etc?

If its not leaking then in theory it was eating it right?... ( or was low period during a change obviously)

LMB-Z 03-20-2017 12:03 PM

More information needed. What were you doing just prior? Recent oil change? Miles on car? Year model? Mods?

Too-Fast 03-20-2017 12:15 PM

If not leaking oil and level was correct, then it had to have been ingesting it, rings or valve guides. Where you seeing any blue smoke on first start or while running?

silvrhand 03-20-2017 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Durien512 (Post 1594339626)
damn.. sorry to hear man.... is there oil in intake, TB etc?

If its not leaking then in theory it was eating it right?... ( or was low period during a change obviously)

yah it was either low on change, or when I pull it apart I'm going to find massive leakage somewhere internally past the valve guides or something else.

MTPZ06 03-20-2017 04:12 PM

Is the car an '09+ with 10.5 qt dry sump?

jb78L-82 03-20-2017 04:47 PM

More going on here than 2 qts down in the dry sump whether 8 or 10.5 qt capacity unless the car was on a track at 6-7,000 RPM. Even 2 qts down on a 8qt Z, just driving down the road would not spin a bearing causing the rod knock. The engine would have to be close to out of oil for the low oil to fry the engine.

blkbrd69 03-20-2017 04:57 PM

Bummer;
If an oil pump dies it can pull from tank but not scavenge back to tank, oil can be in sump. It will hold the entire tank. Pull sump drain plug with a clean big container.

jb78L-82 03-20-2017 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by blkbrd69 (Post 1594342089)
Bummer;
If an oil pump dies it can pull from tank but not scavenge back to tank, oil can be in sump. It will hold the entire tank. Pull sump drain plug with a clean big container.

This suggestion seems very plausible...oil pump died....especially with dropping oil pressure and then rod knock.....:thumbs:

rio95 03-21-2017 09:44 PM

When's the last time you checked the oil level? 2 quarts would not be unheard of on these cars if you were toward the end of a change interval and beat on it a lot. I agree though that it doesn't seem like even 2 quarts low on your car would matter unless you had sustained g load.

njk4o5 03-22-2017 09:33 AM

this is impossible ls7's only die from dropped valves

Mr. Jean 03-22-2017 10:01 AM

Yup, sounds like you lost a pump.:( Sorry for your loss.

silvrhand 03-26-2017 09:38 AM

Some progress..

- measure the amount of oil drained out of the car.. 4 quarts, this was after I put 3 quarts in it when the rod started knocking.
- oil is like graphite, and has sparkles in it.
- top of engine is good had oil covering the heads..
- pistons look good other than #2 you can twist it in the cylinder right now, rod bearing looks gone.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d40473956a.jpg

oil should not be sparkly

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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...52341cc1c0.jpg

oil is more like graphite..

Brandon619 03-26-2017 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by njk4o5 (Post 1594354366)
this is impossible ls7's only die from dropped valves

Funny comment, not a funny scenario hopefully that it's something simple but it sounds like a motor build. This is your excuse to build a stout motor?

colten79 03-26-2017 01:49 PM

Well at least you're not buying a complete different long block, so it could have been a lot worse..

MTBSully 03-26-2017 08:42 PM

damn. So essentially you are saying the motor had 1 quart of oil in it?!

silvrhand 03-26-2017 10:45 PM

Still don't know what caused the rod bearing failure but it's pretty obvious it failed, luckily I just dumped the clutch and pulled over and killed the motor before it got much worse...


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Les 03-26-2017 10:49 PM

Wow, that was hammered! By using your head you saved yourself a major heartache. Well done, and good luck putting it back together. :thumbs:


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