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Zoxxo 04-24-2017 10:55 PM

Formula One - Russia - TV Times (U.S.)
 
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Formula One - Russia - On NBCSN and CNBC
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THE TIMES AND DAYS FOR THIS RACE ARE DIFFERENT, SO PAY ATTENTION! :yesnod::yesnod::yesnod:

THERE ARE TWO SHOWINGS OF THE RACE.

THERE ARE THREE SHOWINGS OF QUALIFYING.

THERE IS ONE SHOWING OF PRACTICE 2.

LIVE QUALIFYING WILL BE ON CNBC!!

The *second* PRE-RACE show is integrated into the schedule for the race.


The post-race show "F1 Extra" is shown immediately after the race show
whatever time that may be. NBC schedules "F1 Extra" to start 2 hours after
the start of the race but, in reality, it's always shown immediately after the race
regardless of the actual time. The simplest way to make sure you record "F1 Extra" is
to add enough extra time to the race broadcast recording to handle any extra time
that was needed to record the entire race (red flags, etc.), and record "F1 Extra".
My standard is to add AT LEAST three hours (!) to make sure I cover most
eventualities. That's what those big hard drives are for :yesnod:

I pull this info from from my Tivo's schedule and the check it against zap2it.com
and f1calendar.com. I have no guarantee that it is correct but it usually is. I also
double check it with the NBC Sports NET schedule. Caveat Emptor.

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ALL TIMES PACIFIC DST TIME !!!!! (Eastern times in parens)
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Friday April 28, 2017
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  • 5:00 AM - Practice 2 [LIVE] (8:00 AM Eastern) NBCSN

Saturday April 29, 2017
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  • 5:00 AM - Qualifying [LIVE] (8:00 AM Eastern) * CNBC *
  • 3:00 PM - Qualifying [RESHOWING] (6:00 PM Eastern) NBCSN

Sunday April 30, 2017
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  • 3:00 AM - Qualifying [RESHOWING] (6:00 AM Eastern) NBCSN
  • 4:00 AM - PRE-RACE Show NBCSN
  • 4:30 AM - Race [LIVE] (7:30 AM Eastern) NBCSN
  • 1:30 PM - Race [RESHOWING] (4:30 PM Eastern) NBCSN

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61X 04-25-2017 12:00 PM

Thanks Zoxxo, I appreciate your postings. Now if I can only figure out where it might be on this Roku setup I just bought! Edit, I found it as a Sling TV package. Love F1.

BrianCunningham 04-25-2017 01:35 PM

Thanks

sunsalem 04-26-2017 12:36 PM

We can only hope:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ge_grand_prix/

sunsalem 04-27-2017 01:59 AM

Of all the cities being discussed as locations for a future F1 GP, LB is by FAR the worst choice IMO.
In fact, LB is horrible for just about ANY car race.

Is there a course in the world that features LESS Green Flag racing during a timed event?
Those of you who watch races from there know what I mean...:willy:

sunsalem 04-27-2017 11:31 AM

Cockpit shields coming next year:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ockpit_shield/


Nice improvement for the fans:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...ers_and_names/

froggy47 04-27-2017 12:39 PM

I've been to the LB Indy car race a few times and they were fun to watch in person, not sure why F1 would be any better/worse? From my selfish POV (1 hr drive) I sure hope it happens. But it's pure speculation at this point. They even have a Corvette parking Corral at the Indy race. Woo Hoo.

:)

BrianCunningham 04-27-2017 01:14 PM

Based on the dry run through the tunnel, I want NYC to host :D

BrianCunningham 04-27-2017 01:20 PM

Saw this coming


Originally Posted by Thunder22 (Post 1594615748)


sunsalem 04-27-2017 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Zoxxo (Post 1594619111)
It's not the track that's responsible for this (see Monaco.) It's the cost of having enough cranes in place to be able to do what they do at Monaco re: removing crashed/immobile cars.

Z//

Smart use of cranes (like Monaco) would be helpful, but there are more inherent problems with LB.
Passing would involve a serious risk of spraying carbon fiber across the track, NO run-offs to speak of, and poor visibility for cameras and fans are all problems.



Originally Posted by froggy47 (Post 1594619297)
I've been to the LB Indy car race a few times and they were fun to watch in person, not sure why F1 would be any better/worse? From my selfish POV (1 hr drive) I sure hope it happens. But it's pure speculation at this point. They even have a Corvette parking Corral at the Indy race. Woo Hoo.

:)

Just think how cool a night race in Vegas would be?:yesnod:


http://0.tqn.com/d/govegas/1/0/N/V/2...ightthings.jpg

sunsalem 04-28-2017 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Zoxxo (Post 1594623776)
You just described Monaco to a tee. :yesnod:

I was waiting for someone to point that out.;)

Miraculously (or so it seems), the corner workers at Monaco clear the track so fast it doesn't seem like the safety car periods and delays last long.
Judging the races I have seen at LB, I'm not too optimistic it can be pulled off there with such a high degree of competence.


I will be very, very surprised if the casino owners ever approve of closing down Las Vegas Blvd. over a weekend for this (much less on a Saturday night.) It's hard enough to get around the strip on a weekend without shutting down the main corridor to boot. And NOT having it on Las Vegas Blvd. would run counter to the entire premise.
Being located in Oregon, I'll admit I am a little biased towards a Vegas race.
However, there is no doubting its potential as an F1 Spectacle rivaling any in the world.
This is why the NJ race appeals to me as well.


As is/was so often the case, Bernie's dreams run smack into the real world - particularly when trying to spawn races in the U.S. with it's singular lack of "despots with keys to the treasuries." Even Zak Brown's article on LB made clear that F1 needs government support which does not go down well with the proletariat. The same fundamentals hold true for the New York race. In that case maybe Liberty can ease off the Bernie requirements and make it possible for investors to make a profit but until that happens...

Z//
It all comes down to Liberty's ability to negotiate and promote.
At this moment in time, I want to believe it is their strong suit...what they truly bring to the table that Bernie came up a little short on (IMO).

sunsalem 04-28-2017 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Zoxxo (Post 1594626568)
I have zero issue with the competence. The SCCA corner workers are second to none in the world. The difference lies in the way the governing body views the issue of incidents. NASCAR has influenced all the major U.S. sanctioning bodies to prioritize artificial competition and PR over the real thing ("the closest finish in history!!!" (since last weekend, that is.)) As a result, they see full course yellows as a powerful way to induce such "close racing". It always makes me want to barf when I read post-race quotes from race officials bemoaning the "numerous caution periods" :rolleyes:

I don't watch/follow NASCAR.
As far as I am concerned, car racing is not driving around in a circle as fast as possible.


It's still a street race (in what Sheldon Cooper calls "America's urinal cake" :)) that will feature a large majority of 90 degree corners and endless concrete and fencing. Yawn++.
Sheldon is a putz.:lol:


Bernie:
Negotiating = second to none (to a fault, actually.)
Promoting = nonexistent (a massive fault.)
VERY true.


Hahaha!! So Bernie negotiated a deal that you signed off on and NOW you cry about it?? And Liberty, who had absolutely nothing to do with your deal, are now to be faulted for not helping you hang the decorations at your farewell party?? Wow. I guess nobody in Malaysia knows how to work a calculator so they never realized that they'd sold their souls to British Satan. :D

I have ZERO sympathy for them.
No one forced 'em to sign the contracts.:yesnod:

sunsalem 04-29-2017 01:05 AM

I'll be watching Alonso at Indy too.

BTW, how come Southern Cal can't come up with a real racetrack to attract major league roadracing...like Weathertech, Pirelli World Challenge, etc.?
There HAS to be enough fans down there to make it viable commercially.:confused2:

sunsalem 04-29-2017 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Zoxxo (Post 1594630767)
I suspect it's the same reason that no one else across the country has done so. Portland International used to have big-crowd Can-Am and CART races. Look at their web site now. 5k runs? SCCA club racing? :(

PIR is a very minor league track.
It can't hold large crowds and the facilities are kind of a joke.
It did hold some of the first ALMS races, but karma(?) took hold and we had a couple of years in a row with the worst kind of weather imaginable for a race and that was the end of that.

FWIW, this state doesn't have a big car culture...in fact, I would bet it's one of the smallest in the country.


My own opinion is that the post-war American car culture that celebrated freedom and individual automotive creativity (see George Barris, Ed Roth, etc.) is long gone - it's been legislated out of existence. (Unlike many here I understand why and mostly agree with the reasons, too. The world changes.) But you can no longer work on your own car in any meaningful way so the hundreds of thousands of do-it-yourself car freaks/tweaks have been relegated to essentially putting fancy exhaust tips on their cars. Heck, The auto manufacturers claim DMCA violations if anyone messes with the settings in the CPU, for Cripe's sake. I guess it was inevitable but I do think it's a primary cause of the decline in motorsport fandom.
The modern world offers more and more do-dads, etc. as competition for the attention of the young and it is thru them car culture will survive or not.

Cars have become truly commoditized (most of the low and mid-field cars and sport-utes look like the same electric shavers to me now) and, for the most, people just don't care about cars in the ways that they used to. Even the car adverts are now all about who has better wi-fi, lane-keeper noises, tv for the kids, etc., etc. :rolleyes:

It's a different world.
True.


Anyway, in SoCal everyone spends a *lot* of their week in their car stopped in rush hour traffic so the appeal of spending their weekend driving to/from a race track to see even more cars (particularly cars that look just like the ones they are regularly stuck in traffic with) has never been a big-seller idea. Personally, I have no desire whatsoever to pay money to see muffled, Porsche 911s run around Laguna Seca in packs. I'd need to have snake jaws to yawn big enough in response to that. And that's precisely why F1 losing the sounds of the old cars was stupid beyond measure. MY CAR sounds better and more interesting than F1 cars do now and unless someone in there quickly grasps the idea that fans do NOT want to see/hear "road relevance" and changes direction F1 will soon lose its fan base in droves.

This drive by Jean Todt and the FIA to make F1 cars reflect consumer vehicles to some degree is nuts.
No one wants to spend the time and $$$ to go to a GP to see cars that have much in common with the family transport in their garage.
It's idiotic and shows a complete misunderstanding of modern entertainment (and auto racing is 1st and foremost, Entertainment).

sunsalem 04-29-2017 05:04 PM

"Bread and circuses" indeed.;)


The loss of Spectacle is something we fans and others (drivers, etc.) have noticed for quite awhile now.
At this point, we can't look for help from Todt and his minions, it's up to Liberty to keep the plebs interested in the sport.

sunsalem 04-29-2017 05:06 PM

Here are the results of Qualifying for tomorrow's race:
http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/6...F1_Grand_Prix/

froggy47 04-29-2017 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by sunsalem (Post 1594630549)
I'll be watching Alonso at Indy too.

BTW, how come Southern Cal can't come up with a real racetrack to attract major league roadracing...like Weathertech, Pirelli World Challenge, etc.?
There HAS to be enough fans down there to make it viable commercially.:confused2:

California is currently run by a bunch of fruity tootie liberal/progressive azzhats. They care more about sanctuary cities and taking away your constitutional gun rights than any race track. It's a wonder we have what we do have.:flag:

Zoxxo 04-29-2017 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by froggy47 (Post 1594636000)
California is currently run by a bunch of fruity tootie liberal/progressive azzhats. They care more about sanctuary cities and taking away your constitutional gun rights than any race track. It's a wonder we have what we do have.:flag:

And this is the precisely the reason I don't post any of these in the "off-topic" area. Please don't introduce political opinion here.

Z//

sunsalem 04-30-2017 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by froggy47 (Post 1594636000)
California is currently run by a bunch of fruity tootie liberal/progressive azzhats. They care more about sanctuary cities and taking away your constitutional gun rights than any race track. It's a wonder we have what we do have.:flag:

WTF does this post have to do with ANYTHING in our current discussion?:rolleyes:

froggy47 04-30-2017 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by sunsalem (Post 1594636187)
WTF does this post have to do with ANYTHING in our current discussion?:rolleyes:

Read the quoted part, has to do with So Cal race tracks comment.
:thumbs:


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