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Hunterworks 07-12-2017 03:37 PM

Track Day Vette?
 
I don't have a car yet, would pretty much only be buying it for track days.

I thought about a C5, then see the improvements in a C6 then the C7 and now I want a C7 Z06 or Z07 etc.

Money is an object but I don't want to buy one then instantly want another as soon as I learn to drive it.

I do not have track experience but I have raced off-road and won a championship twice doing that so not the same thing but I can drive!! LOL

Would rather buy more car than I know how to drive and learn to drive it than buy one that I would want more pretty fast after driving it a few times

Looking for advice. not sure age is a factor but I am 49.

Thanks in advance.

jaredtxrx 07-12-2017 04:29 PM

C6 Z06 or C7 Grand Sport w/Z07.
Personally those are where I would lay my money down.
If money is of a concern a C6 Z06 can be picked up for mid-30's. Make sure the required head work is done or gets done and you have a damn rocket ship out of the box, and a ton of aftermarket to scratch that itch if you feel like it isn't quite fast enough.

2014GT 07-12-2017 04:34 PM

UrbanKnight should be able to chime in, hes gone through a ton of vettes LOL.

If you are looking to find the best bargain, a c5z or possibly a c5 FRC would be the most cost effective.
If funds allow, a C6Z or C7 Grand Sport, the latter definitely is more expensive, but gives you a lot as far as the mag ride, and a great chassis, all of the great things of the C7Z w/o the headaches of cooling issues but 200 less HP.

I went through a C6Z to a C7 GS and I've been happy but the cost difference in parts is noticeable. If I could build the ideal track car, I'd start with a C6Z.

fleming23 07-12-2017 04:36 PM

Whatever you decide, for the love of god, don't buy an automatic.....

2014GT 07-12-2017 04:38 PM

^amen

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by jaredtxrx (Post 1595132283)
C6 Z06 or C7 Grand Sport w/Z07.
Personally those are where I would lay my money down.
If money is of a concern a C6 Z06 can be picked up for mid-30's. Make sure the required head work is done or gets done and you have a damn rocket ship out of the box, and a ton of aftermarket to scratch that itch if you feel like it isn't quite fast enough.

IM new, required head work? what does it need?

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by fleming23 (Post 1595132346)
Whatever you decide, for the love of god, don't but an automatic.....

Yeah I figured that part out for sure

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 2014GT (Post 1595132328)
UrbanKnight should be able to chime in, hes gone through a ton of vettes LOL.

If you are looking to find the best bargain, a c5z or possibly a c5 FRC would be the most cost effective.
If funds allow, a C6Z or C7 Grand Sport, the latter definitely is more expensive, but gives you a lot as far as the mag ride, and a great chassis, all of the great things of the C7Z w/o the headaches of cooling issues but 200 less HP.

I went through a C6Z to a C7 GS and I've been happy but the cost difference in parts is noticeable. If I could build the ideal track car, I'd start with a C6Z.

Dumb question, why not the C7 Z06 with more HP?

smellya 07-12-2017 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Hunterworks (Post 1595132427)
Dumb question, why not the C7 Z06 with more HP?

Heat issues. Cooking your oil, coolant temp and reduced power.

SocalC5Z 07-12-2017 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Hunterworks (Post 1595132408)
IM new, required head work? what does it need?

Best to read this thread to get a primer:ack:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...confirmed.html

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by DunlevysZ (Post 1595132524)
Best to read this thread to get a primer:ack:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...confirmed.html

I only read first couple lines but it looks like a issue back in 2012 that was resolved. What year vehicles is this an issue?

2014GT 07-12-2017 05:21 PM

^ as smellya said, plus HP is not the end all for road course work.

The C7Z is well known for overheating on track after 1 or 2 hard laps. The GS gives you the best of the c7 and the c7z(minus HP) and will take hot lap after hot lap without any whining.

2014GT 07-12-2017 05:21 PM

edit: the don't trust that, have the heads replaced or rebuilt in any c6z. You're tempting fate if you don't

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by 2014GT (Post 1595132656)
^ as smellya said, plus HP is not the end all for road course work.

The C7Z is well known for overheating on track after 1 or 2 hard laps. The GS gives you the best of the c7 and the c7z(minus HP) and will take hot lap after hot lap without any whining.

This is why I am asking for advice. Just did a build on chevy site the GS got north of $86k quick, guessing used ones hard to find

2014GT 07-12-2017 05:32 PM

go to the dealership and buy one of the lot, much better deals available by dealing with what they have on hand and are ready to make a deal on. I didn't pay anywhere near that for mine. I also didn't check the box for every toy. If you want the car as a true track car, Z07 isn't required but is nice, everything else is unnecessary.

You may find a rare used GS, but its the sweet spot for the vette for now.

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by 2014GT (Post 1595132723)
go to the dealership and buy one of the lot, much better deals available by dealing with what they have on hand and are ready to make a deal on. I didn't pay anywhere near that for mine. I also didn't check the box for every toy. If you want the car as a true track car, Z07 isn't required but is nice, everything else is unnecessary.

You may find a rare used GS, but its the sweet spot for the vette for now.

There are no vettes at the chevy dealers around here, I am in MS we poor!!! LOL I will look for a used one or have to travel to a bigger dealership if I do it.

63Corvette 07-12-2017 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Hunterworks (Post 1595132858)
There are no vettes at the chevy dealers around here, I am in MS we poor!!! LOL I will look for a used one or have to travel to a bigger dealership if I do it.

NOOoooo Use the internet! Then have it shipped or drive it home.:thumbs:

SunnydayDILYSI 07-12-2017 06:24 PM

You have experience, know this is a good hobby for you, and want a track only car. The biggest factor is to buy something that is already a full on track car (i.e., one that is already caged, has fire suppression, cooling (oil, water, trans, diff, brakes), aero, coil overs, dry sump (ARE, not stock) and BBK. With these mods, C5 vs C6, vs C7 is not that important. I'd put my ST2 C5 FRC up against any stock vette over a 30 minute race. C5 will be a bit cheaper, newer will be a bit faster. But there are a lot of good ST1 C5s out there. Track cars like these go for about 1/3rd of the price of a new C7Z

Hunterworks 07-12-2017 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by 2014GT (Post 1595132723)
go to the dealership and buy one of the lot, much better deals available by dealing with what they have on hand and are ready to make a deal on. I didn't pay anywhere near that for mine. I also didn't check the box for every toy. If you want the car as a true track car, Z07 isn't required but is nice, everything else is unnecessary.

You may find a rare used GS, but its the sweet spot for the vette for now.

Got it down to $76 MSRP 1lt, z07 package, data recorder and better seats I think were only options

C5inWV 07-12-2017 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by SunnydayDILYSI (Post 1595133088)
You have experience, know this is a good hobby for you, and want a track only car. The biggest factor is to buy something that is already a full on track car (i.e., one that is already caged, has fire suppression, cooling (oil, water, trans, diff, brakes), aero, coil overs, dry sump (ARE, not stock) and BBK. With these mods, C5 vs C6, vs C7 is not that important. I'd put my ST2 C5 FRC up against any stock vette over a 30 minute race. C5 will be a bit cheaper, newer will be a bit faster. But there are a lot of good ST1 C5s out there. Track cars like these go for about 1/3rd of the price of a new C7Z

:iagree:


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