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amr na 08-01-2017 11:26 AM

LT5 vs LT1
 
hi guys

i have 1990 c4 its originally zr1 but when i bout her it has LT1 engine with auto transmission .

now i want to reinstall the LT5 my question is do i need to change the wiring ?

:cheers:

Kevova 08-01-2017 11:40 AM

When someone installed the LT1 the had to transfer at least the LT1 harness with it. So you will need the ZR1 engine and transmission with the harness. It possible you will need passenger compartment harnesses. If car was a stripped or partially stripped shell and persons used a LT1 car as a donor for everything missing. It's not going to be an easy project unless you happen has a wrecked car to transfer parts from.

aklim 08-01-2017 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by amr na (Post 1595265644)
hi guys

i have 1990 c4 its originally zr1 but when i bout her it has LT1 engine with auto transmission .

now i want to reinstall the LT5 my question is do i need to change the wiring ?

:cheers:

Are you sure? That might take a bit of work to convert it, I would think. ECM and harness at least? Did you check it by the VIN to be sure before you go that route?

vader86 08-01-2017 12:01 PM

:skep::skep:

Somebody did what to a ZR1?

Pull the RPO codes and the VIN and post them here.

FASTAZU 08-01-2017 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by vader86 (Post 1595265911)
:skep::skep:

Somebody did what to a ZR1?

Pull the RPO codes and the VIN and post them here.

:iagree:

Or post a few pictures..... a used LT5 and ZF6 alone would cost around $12-$15k...Sell it and get the real thing would be cheaper.

bac22 08-01-2017 12:35 PM

I'd like to know were you're planning on get an LT5 engine...they are not common and are not easy to get a hold of.

Besides I'm not sure I'm buying this post, not that the LT1 isn't a nice engine, but one would have to be a complete moron to swap out LT5 in a ZR1 for an LT1!

Kevova 08-01-2017 12:59 PM

Wrong engines end up in cool cars all the time. I doubt it was because owner wanted LT1. Broken LT5 then parked for a while.... Not entirely related uncle had a 69 rs z28 new. Grandfather ended up with the car when the uncle couldn't keep up with the payments. My grandfather died in 70 before he could have the engine and transmission changed out for a regular v8 and automatic transmission. So you never know. btw car was sold unaltered in 71. To some people it's just a car.

FASTAZU 08-01-2017 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Kevova (Post 1595266361)
Wrong engines end up in cool cars all the time. I doubt it was because owner wanted LT1. Broken LT5 then parked for a while.... Not entirely related uncle had a 69 rs z28 new. Grandfather ended up with the car when the uncle couldn't keep up with the payments. My grandfather died in 70 before he could have the engine and transmission changed out for a regular v8 and automatic transmission. So you never know. btw car was sold unaltered in 71. To some people it's just a car.

An LT1 auto swapped into an LT5 ZF6 ZR-1 is not a simple swap.:thumbs:

arbee 08-01-2017 02:27 PM

Any body here paid attention lately to the number of first time posters who ask obscure questions and never ever make it to post #2 ???

cv67 08-01-2017 02:41 PM

So you bought it with an LT1 auto in it and the seller told you it was really a Z?

Then you say you want to re install your LT5?

Can you clarify this?

Hot Rod Roy 08-01-2017 03:52 PM

Is there any possibility that the PO might have put a ZR-1 sticker on the bumper?

:cool:

RollaMo-LT4 08-01-2017 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by vader86 (Post 1595265911)
:skep::skep:

Pull the RPO codes and the VIN and post them here.


Originally Posted by cuisinartvette (Post 1595267144)
So you bought it with an LT1 auto in it and the seller told you it was really a Z?

Then you say you want to re install your LT5?

Can you clarify this?


Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy (Post 1595267744)
Is there any possibility that the PO might have put a ZR-1 sticker on the bumper?

:cool:

All of the above.

I am not buying the OP story at all.
Someone told him it was a ZR-1 and he probably believed them.

Without the RPO codes or pictures, nobody here will be convinced.

:toetap:

aklim 08-01-2017 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy (Post 1595267744)
Is there any possibility that the PO might have put a ZR-1 sticker on the bumper?

:cool:

That would be my second guess. First guess is the PO informed the OP ORALLY. That way, there is nothing in writing.

billschroeder5842 08-01-2017 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by arbee (Post 1595267052)
Any body here paid attention lately to the number of first time posters who ask obscure questions and never ever make it to post #2 ???

:iagree:

amr na 08-01-2017 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by vader86 (Post 1595265911)
:skep::skep:

Somebody did what to a ZR1?

Pull the RPO codes and the VIN and post them here.


im 100% sure
1: i bout the car with two engines Lt1 installed LT5 extra
2: i checked VIN and its zr1 matching numbers with the engine i have
3 the previous owner changed the engine in 2001 because of wiring problems with lt5
4: my car is one of only two zr1 in my country, that's why he did the swap cuz no parts available

amr na 08-01-2017 11:29 PM

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FASTAZU 08-02-2017 10:44 AM

Wow you should have posted that at first... Looks like you have most if not all the parts to put it back. My be a long road but well worth it.

Check out this site for parts,
http://www.jerrysgaskets.com/

Here for lots of help and another great forum :thumbs:
http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Home.aspx

Tom400CFI 08-02-2017 11:34 AM

Damn....that looks like a pretty major undertaking....but I wish you the best; putting that car "back" is the right thing to do. :thumbs:

Hot Rod Roy 08-02-2017 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by amr na (Post 1595265644)
i want to reinstall the LT5 my question is do i need to change the wiring ?

If that's your only question, you have a very serious problem!

Why did the previous owner swap out the LT5 for the LT1? Before you spend a lot of time on this project, you need to find out why!! I'll bet it was for more than an electrical part he couldn't find. Is that engine healthy? I'd suspect you'll find some very serious problems! Somebody spent a ton of money to make that conversion, and I'm betting that you'll need several tons of money to put it back together!

That pile of parts has obviously been seriously abused since they came out of the car 16 years ago! The engine wasn't even sealed??!! Even IF that engine was good when it was removed from the car, it will need a complete tear-down and rebuild after being stored in a filthy environment! Are you an excellent mechanic and an electrical wizard? Do you know excellent mechanics and electrical wizards?

Where are you located?

Good luck!!

:cool:

pologreen1 08-02-2017 02:25 PM

This is either the best troll job ever posted, or the person that did this needs an IQ test to prove functionality.

I'll believe it 100% when the photos of the paperwork and car are shown as a match.

If it is real, the car and parts are certainly not worth what it will cost to do the job right.

My advice is to part it out on ebay. UNLESS you have a nice shop, money and skills.


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