Car and Driver ZR1 Cover....
 

There is that damn color again! Damn...


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I wish the hood stinger was wide like the Z06.

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Not bad looking font but the front middle opening looks too small

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It's about time....... :thumbs:

Looks legit. Looks like I'll be selling some body parts :D

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Save The Wave,
Corvette_Nut

Now we know a few things 750 hp 680tq 140 pounds more weight in the nose.
90 percent Z06 and interior with a new front clip. Starts at 120,000.00
So my guess is around 150k loaded.
Huge wing is non starter! The wheel cap is the same one on the GS machined cup wheels.

:cheers:

Corvette & National Corvette Museum shares a teaser video on Facebook. Sorry don’t know how to add a link.

I love it. Appears it's going to be a beast.

Not sure why the torque number is so low. Callaway gets 777 lb ft on its Z06 package. I wonder if the hp and torque numbers are final, post EPA certification numbers, or are preliminary estimates.

The must have run out of time styling the front fender vents. Rest of it is smokin'.

The way I read the article the final numbers are not published. So you know the final ones will have to meet and/or exceed what has been stated much like the C6ZR1 reveal came in at 620hp. I like what I am seeing here and might have to get one instead of an F car I am looking at.

Good thing it is optional then.

Thanks for posting this, guys. There was no discussion about trans?

Looks to be an Auto at least in the picture.

It will be a beast but do I love the look?
Not so much here! The Z06 is the better looking car more practical car choice. This car starts
at 120k. But as shown expect more 140k with another level past that.
Great for some guys. But for me? I'm where I want to be.

On the Callaway numbers. Your right 757 and 777 sounds like more.
Not sure where those numbers are from. I don't think the Callaway is going to run as quick or quicker than the ZR1. The one Callaway dyno I did see. One came in to my tuners shop. My tuner looked at the tune. According to my tuner
the tune did not look good. Granted it was an auto but the graft laid over my
M7 Z06 with a Halltech graft. Showed a little less power output than my Z06 which dyno'd 604 at the time.

:cheers:

The article states both M7 and A8 with same ratios as the Z06.

I also like that they have eliminated the spats that the Z06 has. Those were a turn off for me.

Time to start a new discussion. Will the ME be close to the ZR1 in performance or better than? If neither will it be considered a bust?

Yeah, in the beginning of the article is says "either the 7 speed manual or 8 speed automatic".

Jason and keeks2915 called it years ago
 

Nice! Let's hope a few suspension adjustments are made to facilitate putting the massive power down.:salute:

What killed it for me was the 140lbs it gained in the front. I read the article, really not too impressed. I was really looking forward to the release, too. Still looks great though. Waiting for the outcry for no ZR1 emblems on the front fenders.lol

No Spats is a huge win. Glad GM spent a little more money designing a proper front bumper this time around.

It was the spats the whole time?
I was wondering why your still driving the Old C6 (with no spats) and look to be for many moons to come C6. :thumbs:

which will keep me on the sidelines. I kind of figured $120k would be the number. If it hits $150k loaded, I'll have to just stay home. $120k loaded? I'd be all in.

Can't wait, I combined the two pages with the side shot to make it easier to see how it looks as a whole.

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PS, I wonder if blue calipers will be an option? :)

It will be an EPIC track car. For those that track and have the extra dough and don't mind laying it out for the high costs of tracking this bad boy will surely cost. :cheers:

It's pretty much everything we anticipated from a looks perspective, however I wonder if those side mirror turn signal indicators will be standard on all models in 2019?

It's definitely geared to the track crowd, however I'm sure there will be some Cars & Coffee guys buying it for the accolades. I'm still shopping the 2019 Z06 and hoping some of the cooling improvements are incorporated into the design, however not counting on it as I expect the 2019 Z06 to be unchanged.

Absolutely love the new Sebring Orange. Orange calipers please.

I have to say it almost looks like two different cars. A reverse mullet? Party in the front, business in the back? The rear could've used some more flair. Maybe a diffuser or something.

I'm not a fan of the side vent. Looks like it was forgotten about by the designers. GT3 RS did a nice job with the slats. This looks meh.

Me too knowing full well this was coming. I spent my wad.
Not know the production numbers but from history if it repeats That 120 loaded may get one in the 2-3 year discounts. Instead of the must have one guys will pay mark-ups.

So get a more aggressive cam, update the suspension through gm and buy a bigger super charger and i have a ZR1 got it (minus aero) lol Just please throw in the A10 from the ZL1

I just bought a Zl1 and dumped $15k in it already. haha. Just sold my Z06. Selling my Maserati as we speak. But, if it's track focused like the Zl1 1LE is, then I'm gonna pass as I'm gonna want to use it as a part time daily. Oh well, prob going to look mean as hell. Who knows. I might wait until they start hitting dealer floors and do an impulse buy like I always do.

Appears they didn't go with the spool valve shocks of the 1LE, so the ZR will probably me more livable on the street that it is.

That's good to know. I'll keep my eyes and ears peeled then. By Xmas, I'll just have 1 car, so I have room for another bad ass car to put in my garage.

Sounds good sorta like
my play book is the 2300 TVS, headers, intake 800, hp and not much fuss. Hopefully around 3400 pounds.
DSC controller is getting my attention as well. :cheers:

Heck, snag one if you can.

elegant reported it will be a one-year only model (and that the 2019 MY is the last MY for the C7), so you may run into dealers playing the mark-up game.

You might have to go to Mike Furman at Criswell or one of those guys who don't play those kind of games.

So it's 2.5s faster than the Z06 and Mero turned a 1:55.95 in the Z06. So that's a 1:53.5 on VIR Full? Holy cow that's fast.

I wonder if they substantially improved the brake cooling. If I get one I'll be bringing over my AP Racing brakes, DSC controller, and RTx shocks.

You still wouldn't have the extra set of injectors to supply the additional fuel, or the additional cooling that the ZR1 has.

The extra cooling may not matter though unless you planned on tracking the car.

I wonder if now we can finally get a C7 ZR1 section on the forum.

First I heard of the 1 year thing on the ZR1. I thought the C7 will continue along side the ME for a while. This would bode well for Z06 prices.

I like what you heard! Hard to figure that one honestly! Have see what happens for sure.

Still not that many of them in the big picture. Only 6800 sold 2017's will be sold in the US! Even less 2018's but looks to be 2019's as the highest numbers made.

Are they now guaranteeing that the A8 can handle a road course like the M7? That’s a big ?

Bish

If you read the article you will see that though it is faster than the Z06 on the track they do not consider it a track only focused car. It can be optioned without the big aero and still maintains the magna-ride suspension. It specifically says that the springs, dampers, and limited slip are tuned to be forgiving unlike the ZL1-1LE. This car is still not going to be a no holds barred track car.

Yea definitely wouldn't be tracking the car anyways just draging the car in a straight line so the way i see this upgrade is just like what they did with the ZL1 1LE just track focused but a standard ZL1 A10 beats that car in a line.

Looks great and I want one, but unfortunately it is out of my price range so I'll have to live with my current car.

Still will be a epic track car. Still with high costs. Another league faster than Camaro! Isn't the Z06 faster than the Camaro as well?
No holds barred or not! I agree there will still but some loaded with golf clubs heading to the country club.
:cheers:

Looks like an 80's lambo.

It is faster than my Z06 and a lot more $$$ and should be a much better track car but I like the look of the Z06 better and I am happy with my 2017 Z06 VERT. I am not a hater the ZR1 should be a better performing version of the Z06 as was the 2007 C6 ZR1 a better performance version of the 2008 C6 Z06. Cant be the top dog forever as their will always be a better one! Good for GM for giving Corvette buyers several performance variations of the C7 Corvette!:thumbs::rock::flag:

Why all the hate for the C7 Z06 and Grand Sport SPATS I like mine??:confused::confused2:

I'd be up for the appearance of that front bumper. Now that it's pretty certain that the ZR1 bumper won't bolt up to a Z06, maybe someone will go to the trouble to make one for us.

From what I am reading so far, this sounds like GM's 'Demon'.

Nose heavy at + 140lbs. Bigger blower, Softer Dampers, Springs, Diff. It sounds like a very powerful GT car and not the track weapon the Z06 supposedly is.

If GM releases an insane Nurburgring laptime, I will attribute that to the softer dampers, springs and more downforce.

Khoa, someone else is calling your name.

Time to get to work!:smash:
I got first dibs though.

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I'm assuming it was tested 2.5s faster than Z06 before the MagRide calibration that came out last week? If true, then it's only 1.5 sec faster which doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

140lbs more on the front axle? No thanks.

Overall this car is pretty underwhelming. The power and torque numbers are a modest improvement easily gained with light mods on a Z06. I’m only interested in the aero and cooling but neither of those will justify the price. Also no iron brake option is a downer for anyone really interested in tracking the car. I was thinking they’d option spool valve shocks but still only left the mag rides.

Overall somehwat blah.

Will be on top of it the second I can get my hands on a ZR1 bumper.

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I'll add that I'd like it to be a real semi-functional front bumper, made of similar bendy material as stock, rather than a fiberglass or carbon fiber knockoff, since I mostly use my Z06 as a daily driver.

I agree. Why not just update the z06 and have a refresh with more power like most manufactures do with their cars over time? Why introduce a whole new car which is literally 90% a z06? People still think their will be a ME with the price of this thing? 100 more hp but same everything and 140 pounds heavier.:crazy2:

That's how marketing goes.

There are quite a few tuners who can exceed that horsepower level without adding any weight, by switching to a centrifugal blower. But GM seems to be married to Eaton.

Maybe there's a good reason for that? Eaton has made huge investments in furnishing blowers to car manufacturers, including Mercedes, and jumped though the hoops which it takes to do that. We hot rodders are a minuscule drop in the bucket, compared to that market.

First I heard of it too. elegant reported it. According to him it's from legit inside information.

I’m sure those additional coolers can be retrofitted. As far as material, will have to out souce to another country and still be very expensive to make in the same plastic material.

Most likely will be a more flexible hybrid of fiberglass and plastic to keep the price reasonable

Is VIR Full the same as the 4.1 mile Grand West course? Thought his time on the Grand West course was 2:41.3.

Given the difference I would imagine VIR Full and the Grand West course are different. Link to his lap or details of the 1:53.5 please. Thanks in advance.

Meh. I was really expecting something special/more. Not impressed.

- Disappointed and not sure why it's only 680 ft-lbs of torque.

- Only 100 HP more AND 140 extra pounds.

- LOUSY it comes with CCBs as they suck for road course work. Wish they would offer iron rotors as a no cost option.

- Sucks they didn't put the Camaro's A10 in it.

- Mind boggling that it has magnetic instead of the trick spoon-valve shocks

- Those are some butt ugly wheels. Didn't they come on an 80's era Ferrari?

- I wonder if those fugly wheels are forged.

Sure looks like the marketing guys are the ones who "spec'd/designed" the thing for the gold chain wearing, cruise-in/car show crowd. My initial reaction is all hat, no cattle. The ZL1 1LE is a "better" track car. Maybe not faster, but better.

Too bad they half assed it.

Rick

P.S. Be interesting to see how many will be lining up to buy as you can't believe a word that Tadge says. Will have to wait on some guinea pigs to buy and run it to see if it's capable of being driven at 9/10 by a fast driver on a warm day without heat issues. I'm skeptical....

Yes it is, but going by my butt dyno, it's not that much of a difference. The Zl1 pulls hard as all hell. I just bought a '18 so. And I have a '16 Z06. It's close. Not leaps and bounds like you would think. Both cars are bad ass tho.

It is, until you look up this year's IMSA/Weathertech qualifying lap time of the C7R at 1:40.75.;)

It's funny...Tadge didn't mention a thing about it.

I wish I could find something in this post I could disagree with...;)

You're not the only one.:yesnod:

I, too, was expecting a more track focused car like the ZL1 1LE. This looks to be a slightly modified Z06 for the cruisers. The extra weight and "GT" label really killed it for me. Also, all the different iterations. All they need now is to offer chrome wheels, and a wing delete along with free New Balance sneakers with every car they sell.

I wanted to see a manual only, 100lb lighter, super track capable car.

I think the Hp numbers make no sense to me and will be higher once official.
More like 780-775/ 730/750. :cheers:

Looks awesome. Love the new front end and aero bits. Under the hood it looks killer with all that carbon fiber.

I partly agree. I was hoping they would cut some weight from the car, otherwise it looks pretty good to me. I don't mind that they are trying to continue the trend of street driveable and track monster, but here's what I think they should'v done:

• Base ZR1 with softer suspension, less aggessive aero (this version basically exists)
• ZTK Package with the aggessive aero, less weight, spool valve suspension

It would basically be the way the ZL1 and ZL1 1LE are. The track focused version is more hardcore and even quicker while the street version is meant to be a performance touring(ish) car.

I wonder if its the intake runner length on the supercharger. Id like to see the two units side by side and dissected.

Agree

Let's add more power and more weigh. Two contradicting things. 140lbs more up front ugh... if it's faster around the track I'd guess I'm wrong but more weight to an already heavier side car doesn't sound enticing.

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Here is an invitation I got to attend the unraveling of the C7ZR1 in Dubai
12/11/2017

still got more tickets for those who wants to tag along :D

Car looks awesome.
I don’t like those ugly wheels and the rear ended is lacking.
I was hoping for least another 50hp and at least another 75tq, 800hp/750tq.
I was hoping for a wider rear tire, 355

Massive power?!?!?!? Really? A lousy 100 HP more and pretty much the same torque as the current car but 140 pounds heavier.

Power will be as easy to put down as the current C7Z with a DSC magnetic shock controller and a proper alignment.

I was hoping for seats with better thigh bolsters than the standard performance seats.

Man this forum is full of a bunch of whiners.

What did you expect big guy? The car is 750 HP, addressed any cooling issues, can still be daily driven, and will destroy just about anything on a road course.

Rest assured it is a lot cooler than your Z06.

when you say a lot.............do you mean like a little a lot or like a lot of a lot?

I like it a lot better. Like a lot a lot. You can tell this car means business and doesn't just look like a run of the mill grand sport.

The big plus is it looks like our Z06 values just went up.

Are they really going to make it have some bronze and some silver color interior trim.

Maybe he means cooler in the literal sense as in temperature, and not in the looks department.

LOL. It's called critical analysis little guy. I counter with:

1. 750 HP gain isn't much when adding 140 pounds, especially on the nose. Further, torque is a more meaningful metric than HP and the torque is about the same as the current car.

2. What is the basis for your claim that it "addressed any cooling issues"? That's an ignorant statement as no testing has been done on track by a fast driver. They claim they "fixed" the cooling on the 2017 C7Z, however, mine still overheats when driven 9/10 on track on a hot day.

3. Any car, including the current C7 Z07 can be daily driven. Daily driver capability is subjective and is based upon an individuals desires and needs.

4. Before claiming it will destroy "just about anything on a road course" lets wait till we see at least one actual lap time. Not some general statement by Tadge who has a tendency to exaggerate, some say lie.

5. It may be cooler than my 2017 C7Z but that is also subjective. I do believe my C7Z is cooler than your C6Z. Then again, this is also a subjective statement.

If you can't handle an adult conversation which critically analyzes a mechanical device maybe you should go to your safe place. Suck it up, buttercup.

Rick

1.) You don't even know the official power numbers yet, dumbass

2.) Sucks for you, I'm willing to bet that it's fixed in this car with fundamental design/mechanical changes that are obvious

3.) Never said it couldn't, so what is your point

4.) The Z06 already beats about anything on the road course and this car is obviously going to be faster

5.) I don't own a C6Z, I own a Viper ACR...so....neat?


You post like a bitchy baby boomer. Guarantee you're over 50.

Really, the spy shots and videos showing what we all believed was the 2019 Corvette ZR1 test mules told us everything that we needed to know about the exterior design, but the December Car & Driver cover confirms that the mysterious Corvette test cars with the extreme aerodynamics components were indeed the C7 ZR1.

Torque News says we still don’t know when Chevrolet will formally introduce the 2019 Corvette ZR1, but thanks to C&D, we know what it looks like and we know that it will be the most powerful Corvette ever.

That would be interesting.

I'll get one, without the big wing, just to commute to work, Lol.

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Yeah, unfortunately I submitted my post just as all the details were being posted. I was the 4th poster, but by the time my comments went through I was around #19. 140 additional pounds over the front axle is going backwards not forwards.

Now put some better-looking wheels on it.

That makes it look like a Lexus/Toyota. No thanks.

These quarter mile and 0-60 times seem unchanged in comparison to the a8

Huh?!!!

Some manufacturers came around to the latest in cooling and styling trends, before GM did. Doesn't bother me in the least if someone else went there first. Aside from the computers, most of our engine technology is at least 75 years old.

Read pages 24 and 25 of the magazine. Additional cooling up front adds 140 lb on the nose

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and dump that ugly wing.hope its an option and not standard.great for track,lousy for street and carwash.

Shes get porkier!!!

don't need more power, she needs to drop weight. i like the new aero and the new orange but not enough to make me upgrade. i wish it was more track focused.

More importantly they should negate any concerns about intake valve coking. I would probably wait till later in 2018 (or even early 2019) to buy, just to be sure there are no heat soak issues. The more effective & efficient aero will give more downforce than the Z06 with less drag, which should also help lap times.

Ya, not selling my Z06 for this porker. Now it's all about retrofitting the new cooling hardware on to the Z06 and calling it a day.

Good to know the Z06 is still the most hardcore car in the Vette portfolio. The ZR1 is clearly aimed at the GT crowd. Mad wing option for folks who want to be taken seriously.

How will the new ZR1 compare in 0-60 with the Lingenfelter 800 hp and 800 ft lbs of torque mod to the current ZO6 I wonder?

Too many dips in driveways and I see the front bill getting damaged
quickly.
Rocks will get in those cheek coolers and bend some fins !
That is why I like the poverty spoiler which I am on number 3.
:cheers:

It's the cooling enhancements that made it 'porkier'. So...

And I don't get your logic, how is the Z06 the more hardcore car, with less power and downforce and cooling?

Shows comp seats wonder if they will even put the GT seats in them.
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