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DOUG @ ECS 12-13-2017 05:41 PM

ECS introduces Vortech/Paxton's new F1X/F2 KILLER! Known as the V15 & the V17-2500 HP
 
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These head units were specifically designed to fit in the Corvette platform, Paxton asked us for a set of brackets during the design process so it is a tailored fit.

THEY BOLT RIGHT INTO OUR EXISTING BRACKETS!

New All Billet gearcase from Vortech Superchargers.

New internal designed gear set to handle the stress loads of up to 2500HP.

Able to bolt into existing V-1, V-2, V-3, V-7 / 1200, 1500, 2200HD, 2200R/X bracket designs.

Specifically targeting the LS Corvette applications and Hot Rod Market.

Compressor stages from 1000HP- 2500+HP.

Designed as the F1X/F2 Killer

V-17 - 1500-2500HP

V-15 – 1000-1500HP

Basically these are using the same billet gear case, the V-15 has a slightly smaller mounting point for the valute to bolt onto, while the V-17 can handle a larger valute and impeller. Both are able to handle the power that they can produce.

I will personally be doing a ton of track R&D come spring time on these from the ground up so you have all the info you need to spec your desired build without guess work. You will not be required to figure out how far you can go on each belt size like some manufacturers do, we will let you know our experience on how far each unit can go on a ten rib rib belt HP wise, and what will will be needed to take you to those upper numbers as well.

This is something that I am personally very excited to test out, Paxton typically rates their HP numbers a little lower than they actually produce so we'll see how far we can go on the V-15 then start with the V-17. I'm even pulling my personal vehicle out of hibernation to get some solid results from more of a purpose built vehicle so they are more cut and dry.

If the results are not as expected, which I doubt highly, I'll post that too. However from everything I have seen flow chart wise, and the craftsmanship of the blower itself, I'm very confident that as far as the big boy blowers go in Corvettes....

Move over Procharger, there's a new sheriff in town!!

:yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::yesnod::yesnod:

T/A KID 12-13-2017 06:42 PM

Badass... Look forward to some data

Cordes Performance Racing 12-13-2017 07:45 PM

wonder if they upped the step up ratio in the case, that is one nice thing about the f series is you can run a big ass pulley on them and make a lot of power. Granted when I had a 2200X I made 11xx rwhp on a 2.75 w/ your bracket, griptec pulley w/ no slip but would be nice to see them do a more aggressive ratio in the case.

robert miller 12-13-2017 09:07 PM

ttt
 
Doug cant wait to see some track time.

schpenxel 12-13-2017 11:05 PM

Niceeee

blue_bomber697 12-13-2017 11:19 PM

Would you say a V15 would be a better choice over the existing 2200R? And if you need a car for high DA testing on a 416 I'd be happy to help. ;)

black_c7 12-14-2017 01:17 AM

Need some info on cfm and if its street able and what is the gear ratio on those

Gprimm 12-14-2017 03:55 AM

How much?

DOUG @ ECS 12-14-2017 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Joe@CPR (Post 1596174662)
wonder if they upped the step up ratio in the case, that is one nice thing about the f series is you can run a big ass pulley on them and make a lot of power. Granted when I had a 2200X I made 11xx rwhp on a 2.75 w/ your bracket, griptec pulley w/ no slip but would be nice to see them do a more aggressive ratio in the case.

I have posted about this a lot years ago when we switched from Procharger head units to Paxton. What I found is that it worked opposite of what I thought would happen. What you just posted is exactly what I expected also, it makes perfect sense. What I actually found was that the higher step up ratio was kind of like taking off in a higher gear. Just like how you would test a slipping clutch by going to a higher gear and applying power to make it slip, is the same way the belt would start to slip. I know that example is not exactly apples to apples, but it's the best way I know to apply what's happening.


Originally Posted by robert miller (Post 1596175147)
Doug cant wait to see some track time.

Me too Robert!


Originally Posted by blue_bomber697 (Post 1596175789)
Would you say a V15 would be a better choice over the existing 2200R? And if you need a car for high DA testing on a 416 I'd be happy to help. ;)

The V-15 is the step above the 2200R/X. The 2200 series blower usually runs out around 1100 RWHP, where as the V-15 starts at 1000 and runs out around 1500 according to Paxton/Vortech. Although I have found that what they rate there max HP at of each blower is about what we can make at the wheels, so they are a little under rated IMO.


Originally Posted by black_c7 (Post 1596176103)
Need some info on cfm and if its street able and what is the gear ratio on those


Originally Posted by Gprimm (Post 1596176245)
How much?

I will post the pricing and step up ratio as soon as I have it myself. :thumbs:

DOUG @ ECS 12-14-2017 09:29 AM

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Here is a comparison of the V-17 to a NOVI 1500. :thumbs:

DOUG @ ECS 12-14-2017 10:45 AM

3.45 step up ratio, same as the 2200R/X.

C7&7 12-14-2017 02:13 PM

I feel violated. I just bought a 2200X from you guys and Chris didn't mention there would be something better around the corner :(

black_c7 12-14-2017 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS (Post 1596177745)
3.45 step up ratio, same as the 2200R/X.

What about impeller speed? 65k?

DOUG @ ECS 12-14-2017 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by C7&7 (Post 1596179217)
I feel violated. I just bought a 2200X from you guys and Chris didn't mention there would be something better around the corner :(

We had no idea if the project was going to be carried out at all let alone when, sorry about that! It will still be a little while until they are available too. I'm sure we can work something out for you though if you would the V-15, call us.

:thumbs:

DOUG @ ECS 12-14-2017 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by black_c7 (Post 1596179235)
What about impeller speed? 65k?


Correct, to start anyway.

chuntington101 12-15-2017 02:38 AM

Doug, so are these units just bigger than the current lineup or are the wheels a better and more efficient design? It would be great if it was the latter as it's got to help with packaging!

I'm also guessing the are straigh cut gears only?

C7&7 12-18-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS (Post 1596180298)
We had no idea if the project was going to be carried out at all let alone when, sorry about that! It will still be a little while until they are available too. I'm sure we can work something out for you though if you would the V-15, call us.

:thumbs:

:thumbs:

Tonycpa 12-21-2017 01:22 PM

Nice

adidasUNT8 12-22-2017 11:51 AM

I’m seeing the v15 in my future! Any idea when they will be available? I’m assuming there will be a black powdercoated option as well?

DOUG @ ECS 12-27-2017 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by adidasUNT8 (Post 1596231708)
I’m seeing the v15 in my future! Any idea when they will be available? I’m assuming there will be a black powdercoated option as well?


I would assume so, but often the first run is polished from them.

I was told they would be in production at the beginning of the second quarter.


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