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montman 02-18-2018 09:08 PM

Chuck COW vs Vitesse
 
I'm familiar with all the theory and specs so please save your time explaining. I'm looking for actual users who have had BOTH these units. Has anyone been able to compare the effectiveness of a Chuck 🐄 tune to a Vitesse Throttle Controller? I have a Vitesse and really like it - night and day difference in throttle response from stock. But I'm considering 🐄. I don't race and drive pretty easy (most of the time) What differences did you notice? Thanks

TomdaToolman 02-18-2018 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by montman (Post 1596621377)
I'm familiar with all the theory and specs so please save your time explaining. I'm looking for actual users who have had BOTH these units. Has anyone been able to compare the effectiveness of a Chuck 🐄 tune to a Vitesse Throttle Controller? I have a Vitesse and really like it - night and day difference in throttle response from stock. But I'm considering 🐄. I don't race and drive pretty easy (most of the time) What differences did you notice? Thanks

I have no actual experience with either, but will be going with the Cow because of all the problems I have read about on these forums about the Vitesse and it's defects and parts needing replacement numerous times.

Vet Interested 02-18-2018 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by TomdaToolman (Post 1596621584)
I have no actual experience with either, but will be going with the Cow because of all the problems I have read about on these forums about the Vitesse and it's defects and parts needing replacement numerous times.

Check other forums on the Cow before you decide. No problems with my Vitesse.

johny125 02-18-2018 09:49 PM

Great question....I too would like to know!!!

montman 02-18-2018 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by TomdaToolman (Post 1596621584)
I have no actual experience with either, but will be going with the Cow because of all the problems I have read about on these forums about the Vitesse and it's defects and parts needing replacement numerous times.

I've had the Vitesse for 2 years and haven't had any trouble. Of course judging by this forum, the Chevy Corvette is one of the least dependable cars, but I haven't had trouble with mine.

myredhead1 02-18-2018 10:25 PM

No problems with my cow booster.

Dcasole 02-18-2018 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by TomdaToolman (Post 1596621584)
I have no actual experience with either, but will be going with the Cow because of all the problems I have read about on these forums about the Vitesse and it's defects and parts needing replacement numerous times.

How many had problems compared to how many were sold ... and how many problems were user error in calibration of the unit

I have personally help over twenty people with the calibration as they were not doing it correctly which caused the issue

Remember , with all due respect there are a LOT of guys who can't turn a screwdriver...

Dave

jaredtxrx 02-19-2018 10:36 AM

A CoW Tune is different from a CoW Booster.

IIRC...
A Vitesse and CoW Booster do the same thing. They affect when and how much the throttle body opens at a given point of the accelerator pedal. Neither give you any actual horsepower.

A CoW TUNE gives you horsepower, I imagine he can also put in the Booster thing at the same time.

fourth vette 02-19-2018 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by jaredtxrx (Post 1596624011)
A CoW Tune is different from a CoW Booster.

IIRC...
A Vitesse and CoW Booster do the same thing. They affect when and how much the throttle body opens at a given point of the accelerator pedal. Neither give you any actual horsepower.

A CoW TUNE gives you horsepower, I imagine he can also put in the Booster thing at the same time.

I had Chuck install tune and cow booster in my base 05. Would not even consider anything or anyone else.

Zero_6 02-19-2018 12:32 PM

Cow tune and booster = dyno tune and street tune is how I see it. I've had the VTC and loved it. My mistake was placing the VTC in the footwell where it gets hot. The VTC response is crazy fast. Literally no lag if set to SP9.

Chuck CoW 02-19-2018 01:29 PM

There is NO comparison.....
 

Originally Posted by TomdaToolman (Post 1596621584)
I have no actual experience with either, but will be going with the Cow because of all the problems I have read about on these forums about the Vitesse and it's defects and parts needing replacement numerous times.

Thank you.

There is NO comparison..... :D Those that have tried both will tell you.

The CoW BOOSTER! has a 1000% Perfect Record without 1 single failure ever.... By design, it simply can't happen.

For those willing to take risks, there are other products available....

Here's an excerpt from an e-mail I received recently.... I get these often... I've ***'d out the name.


I have been using the ******* Throttle booster and have had more trouble with it for over a year. It throws codes randomly and I have to limp it home. Today it coded and I re-calibrated it 6 times and it still hasn’t worked yet. I’ve even replaced the pedal. I’m planning on pulling it off tonight and sending it back!
To elaborate, they are NOT the same and they do NOT do the same thing the same way.


I won't go into it in this thread, but there are NO complaints with mine and plenty with the competitors.

Call and I'll explain over the phone.
Chuck CoW

Chuck CoW 02-19-2018 01:30 PM

Thank you!
 

Originally Posted by fourth vette (Post 1596624301)
I had Chuck install tune and cow booster in my base 05. Would not even consider anything or anyone else.

Thank you! Most appreciated.

Chuck CoW

c5wolf 02-19-2018 11:38 PM

The vitesse is better and is user adjustable and can be changed on the fly..
Simple plug and play.

Chuck CoW 02-20-2018 02:20 AM

Right on!
 

Originally Posted by fourth vette (Post 1596624301)
I had Chuck install tune and cow booster in my base 05. Would not even consider anything or anyone else.

Right on! There are plenty of people out there that have given up on the plug in throttle boosters because they are

not at all reliable and there are hundreds of posts from people who are having problems with "reduced engine power" and check

engine lights followed by ETC shutdowns.... Bad news and totally UNSAFE.:ack:

There is no other throttle booster available for the 2005 C6's. YES, ONLY CoW BOOSTER! has a product that works!


Here's one of my favorite quotes from one of my (insert booster name here) competitors....


****** Booster makes your car's throttle respond faster to your foot. As a result, your gas pedal
actually achieves a full throttle response 25% sooner than the stock configuration
.
What?!?! WHAT?!?!?! WHAT!?!??!

And, so WHY would you want your throttle to be 100% open when the throttle pedal was only 75% applied !?!?!?!

So again, your throttle is ALL THE WAY OPEN and your pedal is NOT all the way down.

I don't know about you, but that's NOT a feature I want in MY car!

Chuck CoW

Dcasole 02-20-2018 07:26 AM

Easy Chuck ....there you go again , after a long time if being good ,:D

dont start slamming the competition without the facts just promote the benefits of your product

Who is that person that stated at 25% throttle you have 100% throttle , does this person have the "white" paper on the design of this unit?? Is he or she qualified to make this statement?

Yes it does increase the rate that the throttle opens but so does your product

I am sure that some were defective but more than 90 % of those posts you talk about , other product just was not properly calibrated .....

Both products are great , both products work differently but remember both products have had thier problems ...

Dave

sfrank2886 02-20-2018 10:17 AM

Easy DAVE, don’t want to get the COW on your back.

For me, i am not willing to send off my PCM for programming and have to re install even though I am pretty handy. My base 93 tune has helped allot and expect when I have time to do the full ECS tune after adding headers, throttle response will improve some more. If not then I will consider adding the Viteese.

I expect that what you say is correct about most having issues with the V because of not following the directions for calibration.

Vet Interested 02-20-2018 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Dcasole (Post 1596630413)
Easy Chuck ....there you go again , after a long time if being good ,:D

dont start slamming the competition without the facts just promote the benefits of your product

Who is that person that stated at 25% throttle you have 100% throttle , does this person have the "white" paper on the design of this unit?? Is he or she qualified to make this statement?

Yes it does increase the rate that the throttle opens but so does your product

I am sure that some were defective but more than 90 % of those posts you talk about , other product just was not properly calibrated .....

Both products are great , both products work differently but remember both products have had thier problems ...

Dave

Face it, he has to slam the competition. He will never change. Never.

Chuck CoW 02-20-2018 01:12 PM

so.....
 

Originally Posted by Dcasole (Post 1596630413)
... dont start slamming the competition without the facts just promote the benefits of your product

Who is that person that stated at 75% throttle you have 100% throttle , does this person have the "white" paper on the design of this unit?? Is he or she qualified to make this statement?

I am sure that some were defective but more than 90 % of those posts you talk about , other product just was not properly calibrated .....

Both products are great , both products work differently but remember both products have had thier problems ...

Dave

Dave... You say.... "dont start slamming the competition without the facts just promote the benefits of your product"

The quote I posted "the facts" was a direct quote from one of my two throttle booster competitors. It

was posted on their website and in the literature packed with their products. And, YES it stated that when the pedal was

pressed 75% and above, the throttle was 100% open from 75% to 100% pedal. No mistake, that's directly from their

printed literature.

So, to clarify, when you say "both products work differently but remember both products have had their problems ..."

you are obviously talking about BOTH of the companies that offer throttle boosters....Not including mine.

We have no problems, bugs, shutdowns, failures, DTCs, or reduced engine power.... Whatsoever.

We have always enjoyed a 1,000% prefect record with absolutely NO failures or problems whatsoever.

The way it works.... It's can't fail.

In a thread where the OP chose to discuss and compare the The CoW BOOSTER! to other named products, I will absolutely interject FACT where I see necessary

because this person wanted answers and specifically named my product. I didn't start a thread on this topic, but I will mention what's necessary to

put down the "facts" from those that made posts without information or knowledge of such facts and I'll gladly explain to people the difference between said products

especially where I see gross misinformation posted from people who have no basis to make such statements.

Call me any time and I'd be glad to explain how any of it works.
Chuck CoW

montman 02-20-2018 01:16 PM

Thanks for all the replies to my original question. After posting it on three different sections of Corvetteforum and not reading any real world, first hand, non- biased comparison reviews, maybe I will come back to this thread in the future and report my findings. I haven't ruled out trading in the Vitesse for the CoW, but it will probably have to wait until I can get some other stuff paid down - mainly medical bills! The CoW tune does have a lot of extra features that I like, on paper anyway.
I know for certain that I would not want to go back to driving without at least some sort of throttle controller - boring!
Best regards to all

Chuck CoW 02-20-2018 01:25 PM

Thank you.
 

Originally Posted by montman (Post 1596632905)
Thanks for all the replies to my original question. After posting it on three different sections of Corvetteforum and not reading any real world, first hand, non- biased comparison reviews, maybe I will come back to this thread in the future and report my findings. I haven't ruled out trading in the Vitesse for the CoW, but it will probably have to wait until I can get some other stuff paid down - mainly medical bills! The CoW tune does have a lot of extra features that I like, on paper anyway.
I know for certain that I would not want to go back to driving without at least some sort of throttle controller - boring!
Best regards to all

Thank you. Call me at any time. One of the chief benefits of the CoW BOOSTER! is that when you combine it with our AutoCal Tune Package

it allows you limitless adjustments and obviously, all the benefits that go hand in hand with having a proper tune.

Thanks for your interest in my CoW BOOSTER!:thumbs:

Chuck CoW


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