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sunflower 1972 02-25-2018 04:40 PM

Homemade Pressure Bleeder (my version)
 
I know there are alot of homemade bleeders in garages. Just sharing mine that I just finished.https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d1ef419d4c.jpg
13.99 sprayer
3.99 gauge
2.99 quick coupler
1.99 barbed fitting
0.90 clear tubing
$23.86 total, excluding tax.

oldboat 02-25-2018 05:02 PM

except for the quick disconnect fitting it looks almost exactly like mine. i used a two gallon sprayer as i usually run a gallon of fluid through the system.

revitup 02-25-2018 05:25 PM

Not gettin it. How's it attach to the MC?

sunflower 1972 02-25-2018 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by revitup (Post 1596669759)
Not gettin it. How's it attach to the MC?

With this:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/09...g?v=1460526461

'75 02-25-2018 07:10 PM

I tried that, it worked good the first time, then a few months later I went to use it and the sprayer pump seals had swollen so much I couldn't use the pump. Hopefully your pump seals are more compatible with the brake fluid.

sunflower 1972 02-25-2018 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by '75 (Post 1596670382)
I tried that, it worked good the first time, then a few months later I went to use it and the sprayer pump seals had swollen so much I couldn't use the pump. Hopefully your pump seals are more compatible with the brake fluid.

Am planning on cleaning it with denatured alcohol after use. Hopefully that will take care of that.

revitup 02-26-2018 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by sunflower 1972 (Post 1596670196)

What happened to the pump and tank that came with the Motive setup?

HeadsU.P. 02-26-2018 10:24 AM

He didn't buy the Motive Tank. Made his own cheaper version, then adapted the MC cover plate. I always thought it would be nice to have a shutoff valve in the hose in case something goes wrong. As you are bleeding the very last caliper for the very last time,
its common to shutoff the brakefluid / tank pressure so the MC is not overfilled. And without spraying brakefluid all over the fenders, garage floor, headers, the dog . . . . .

sunflower 1972 02-26-2018 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by HeadsU.P. (Post 1596673602)
He didn't buy the Motive Tank. Made his own cheaper version, then adapted the MC cover plate. I always thought it would be nice to have a shotoff valve in the hose in case something goes wrong. As you are bleeding the very last caliper for the very last time,
its common to shutoff the brakefluid / tank pressure so the MC is not overfilled. And without spraying brakefluid all over the fenders, garage floor, headers, the dog . . . . .

Like what he said.:thumbs:

Greg 02-26-2018 03:14 PM

Problem with the Motive set up is the cheap, Chinese chains they come with to hold the lid on the MC. They leak like crazy, tighten them more and the chain just bends open. Absolute crap. I found the best way to seal them is using two large C clamps.
I like your idea of the home made tank :thumbs:

HeadsU.P. 02-26-2018 05:04 PM

I wish I knew how to post pictures. I made a M-Cyl cover for the Motive tank out of 1/2" thick lexan plexiglass. Its maybe 5" X 7". Drilled one offset hole for a brass fitting and the clear hose, sm clamp, caulked it good w/RTV. Then glued a cork gasket the same shape as the MC lid under the plexiglass. I put a huge clamp on it that goes under the MC.
I can see the brakefluid going in the MC. I can see the fluid leaving the MC. I can see everything. I do one side of the MC at a time. After I do the rear brakes I turn the lexan glass 180* and do the front brakes.
But I have no shutoff valve . . . . yet.

Bikespace 02-26-2018 07:18 PM

I just used the Motive system over the weekend. I knew about the C-clamp vs. chain (thank's Corvette Forum!). The quick connect air hose fittings is brilliant. I'll be sure to add that, and get a second C-clamp.

The DIY lexan cover is also brilliant. I wish I'd seen all of this a week ago.

vettebuyer6369 03-20-2018 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by HeadsU.P. (Post 1596676784)
I wish I knew how to post pictures.

Very simple to post pics. Use either the paperclip or the image icon to use photos from your own computer, instead of the old Photobucket method:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...on-thread.html

HeadsU.P. 03-20-2018 12:06 PM

Go to a Glass Place and ask for 1/2" Lexan. Maybe 5" X 7", bigger than the master cyl cover. Drill one 1/2" hole, off-set in the glass. Not dead center. You will only be pressurizing one side of the master at a time, either the front system or back.
Purchase brass fitting (NAPA) with a hose barb on the top, threaded nut under the lexan. RTV the crap out of it around the top-side of the hole only. Let set overnite.
Then make yourself a gasket for the lid out of FelPro cork sheet and seal cork to the lexan lid with more RTV. (I used Permatex gray) Let that set overnite.
Using a large "C" or woodworking clamp, mount the lexan lid to the MC. There. Now hook up your clear Motive Bleeder pump tank hose to the brass barb with hose clamp. Inject brakefluid into the master. Pump away. You can see everything going on in the MC. Is the brakefluid low? High? Bubbles? Is it flushing out? Open a bleeder. This set-up should do all four brakes eaisly.

carriljc 03-20-2018 03:40 PM

I made mine out of a garden sprayer about 10 years ago(15?). Been working great ever since. See pic here: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1581454605

HeadsU.P. 03-20-2018 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369 (Post 1596820916)
Very simple to post pics. Use either the paperclip or the image icon to use photos from your own computer, instead of the old Photobucket method:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...on-thread.html

Sorry to borrow your thread Sunflower.
I now have pictures downloaded of the homemade MC plate.
They can be seen at my profile photo album.

Tonio 03-20-2018 04:42 PM

Is there an advantage to using a pressure bleeder vs a Mity Vac vacuum pump?

HeadsU.P. 03-20-2018 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Chapter2 (Post 1596823184)
Is there an advantage to using a pressure bleeder vs a Mity Vac vacuum pump?

In theory, the Motive system will allow you to walk around the car and crack open a bleeder, then move on to the next corner. Lets say you fill your Motive pressure tank with 32-48 oz of brakefluid then pump it up to about 10-15 lb pressure. That should be enough to do all 6 bleeders.
Where as the vac method is more labor involved. You must constantly refill the MC. If it runs dry, well, never mind. You're screwed.
Both methods work pretty well and are much quicker than the, favored by some, gravity method.

The only problem with the pressure method is getting a good seal from the plate that sits on the master cylinder. You have likely seen some adaptors plates for that purpose. With pressure behind the plate, things can and do go wrong. If you are lucky the plate just drips brakefluid on your floor. Worse, is spraying your fenders with paint- removing-brakefluid.

sunflower 1972 03-20-2018 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by HeadsU.P. (Post 1596823079)
Sorry to borrow your thread Sunflower.
I now have pictures downloaded of the homemade MC plate.
They can be seen at my profile photo album.

No problem at all.

skids 03-22-2018 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by HeadsU.P. (Post 1596676784)
I wish I knew how to post pictures. I made a M-Cyl cover for the Motive tank out of 1/2" thick lexan plexiglass. Its maybe 5" X 7". Drilled one offset hole for a brass fitting and the clear hose, sm clamp, caulked it good w/RTV. Then glued a cork gasket the same shape as the MC lid under the plexiglass. I put a huge clamp on it that goes under the MC.
I can see the brakefluid going in the MC. I can see the fluid leaving the MC. I can see everything. I do one side of the MC at a time. After I do the rear brakes I turn the lexan glass 180* and do the front brakes.
But I have no shutoff valve . . . . yet.

Although I made mine out of 1/2" aluminum, you can put a fitting for each side of MC in your plate and tee them together; no need to remove plate then for bleeding rear/front.


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