Against the grain
I've decided to get a little crazier with my SBE NA LS7. I've pretty much exhausted most of my options for extracting more power out of my setup. The only logical (to me) next step was to switch intake manifolds. I was already running a Mamo ported MSD intake. And while it made great power, I was looking for more.
After gathering my parts list, with a lot of help from Josh B, I ordered up a Holley Hi Ram from my tuner. Got everything installed and the hood/cowl cut. Drove it down to my tuners shop to have him tweak the MAP offset and throw in a little fuel across the map. Did a couple pulls while monitoring my wideband. It was a little rich on tip in and still a tad rich at the top of the pull but it definitely "felt" much better. My 7400rpm redline came much faster than I was used to before. I am waiting on a 4.5" custom intake that I bought from Josh B. and I will get it on the rollers. Pretty anxious to see what it will make and how the powerband is going to change. Unfortunately, if it ends up being slower, I'll be stuck with this intake. But that was a risk I was willing to take. Will get some pics soon when I can clean the car up. For reference, my previous setup made, best of, 612whp and 537wtq. Lingenfelter ported heads .050" mill TSP 4.2 camshaft Mamo ported MSD NW102 ID1000s Walbro 450 e85 strictly ARH 1-7/8" with catted x-pipe LG GT4 axle-back This setup peaked around 6600 rpm. Wouldn't doubt peak shifts upwards of 73-7400 rpms now. |
I might just have to swap to a high ram also. We need pictures! When are u going to do a dyno pull? |
Josh should be shipping my intake today or tomorrow. I'll be on the dyno by Friday, hopefully!
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sounds amazing
i am curious of your thoughts on the lg gt4 axle back, i have it on mine and love it but the drone is something else. just wondered if you adressed it or live with it. i do my best to stay outta that rpm range but once im on the interstate its horrible LOL comgrats on your build, i have lpe cnc heads decked.010 on my car and was very happy with the outcome. just lining out the tune stuff now mine made 589/540 after ported heads & with unported 102/102 and pump gas looks like im leaving some HP on the table compared to your build.....looks good!!!$$$$ |
Originally Posted by ~STOLEN~
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sounds amazing
i am curious of your thoughts on the lg gt4 axle back, i have it on mine and love it but the drone is something else. just wondered if you adressed it or live with it. i do my best to stay outta that rpm range but once im on the interstate its horrible LOL comgrats on your build, i have lpe cnc heads decked.010 on my car and was very happy with the outcome. just lining out the tune stuff now mine made 589/540 after ported heads & with unported 102/102 and pump gas looks like im leaving some HP on the table compared to your build.....looks good!!!$$$$ What cam are you running? When I had the BTR Stage 3 my best was 588/559. |
Originally Posted by jayyyw
(Post 1596916516)
Are you running a catless x-pipe? When I first installed it, I was running a catless x-pipe and the drone was crazy. Even at idle and coming off idle. I installed a set of catted ARH headers shortly after and it got rid of A LOT of the drone. You can try installing a set of small resonators in your mid pipe. That should tame it down a bit. I love the exhaust. It sounds so smooth revving through the RPMs.
What cam are you running? When I had the BTR Stage 3 my best was 588/559. those are my na numbers, i cant run cats because im on a 150 shot also....thats how i justify not doing the extra work youve done as well as converting over to corn.....but the resonators are a damn good idea around the mid section on the x pipe. i agree though it sounds very good for the price.:cheers: cam is 660/660 236/256 111lsa not good for driving around to dinner and what not, but makes good power and wears out guides:lol::lol: i currently have about 4500 miles on my lpe heads, they used steel guides in my heads. do you know what guides they used in yours? bronze/steel/etc |
Originally Posted by ~STOLEN~
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those are my na numbers, i cant run cats because im on a 150 shot also....thats how i justify not doing the extra work youve done as well as converting over to corn.....but the resonators are a damn good idea around the mid section on the x pipe. i agree though it sounds very good for the price.:cheers:
cam is 660/660 236/256 111lsa not good for driving around to dinner and what not, but makes good power and wears out guides:lol::lol: i currently have about 4500 miles on my lpe heads, they used steel guides in my heads. do you know what guides they used in yours? bronze/steel/etc My cam is a little bigger - 248/260 .656/.656 111+3LSA, so I know what you mean about the driveability, lol. I have about 10k miles on my heads, mostly daily driving. I have bronze guides with OEM intake valves and Ferrea hollow stem exhaust valves. |
ive always been under impression NO cats on n20
but we know how info goes these days LOL we have a similar set up, i have new oem ti intake/ferrea stainless ex ferrea spring kit, comp trunion wonder whos will wear faster being only diff is the guide material. not to get off topic, but this is all good info for forum users |
Originally Posted by ~STOLEN~
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ive always been under impression NO cats on n20
but we know how info goes these days LOL we have a similar set up, i have new oem ti intake/ferrea stainless ex ferrea spring kit, comp trunion wonder whos will wear faster being only diff is the guide material. not to get off topic, but this is all good info for forum users We were also concerned with the cats and spray but they held up fine. I only had about 30lbs of nitrous through them tho. Most of that was on the dyno. |
Here’s a little idle vid. The vararam is not staying.
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thats a lotta THUMP in there !!!!
did you cut the hood or are you running aftermarket.....id search all your posts but i too lazy.(just being honest) haha my buddy ran a hi ram on his c5z and cut the hood, it looks mean as hell man |
Originally Posted by ~STOLEN~
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thats a lotta THUMP in there !!!!
did you cut the hood or are you running aftermarket.....id search all your posts but i too lazy.(just being honest) haha my buddy ran a hi ram on his c5z and cut the hood, it looks mean as hell man This is the first post I've made about this intake. Eventually, I'll have it powdercoated (most likely silver). |
Interested in the results. I think I would've gone Mamo TFS heads, reworked by Tony before hi-ram and cutting up the car...but that's what makes this forum fun, we all have different goals and ideas. :cheers:
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06
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Interested in the results. I think I would've gone Mamo TFS heads, reworked by Tony before hi-ram and cutting up the car...but that's what makes this forum fun, we all have different goals and ideas. :cheers:
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You would probably be a lot happier if you kept the MSD and setup your car to run on a 100 shot when you want some extra power.
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06
(Post 1596919385)
Interested in the results. I think I would've gone Mamo TFS heads, reworked by Tony before hi-ram and cutting up the car...but that's what makes this forum fun, we all have different goals and ideas. :cheers:
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Originally Posted by lamboworld
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You would probably be a lot happier if you kept the MSD and setup your car to run on a 100 shot when you want some extra power.
I am happy I am rid of the MSD, in all honesty. I have fun trying new things. I have 0 regrets with the car thus far. |
Originally Posted by jayyyw
(Post 1596919609)
I was already running nitrous. It was fun but expensive. I race the car too much. I drive long distances in the car, race, and drive home. I wasn't comfortable doing that running nitrous. I pulled the kit off and posted it for sale. If it doesn't sell, I might put it back on.
I am happy I am rid of the MSD, in all honesty. I have fun trying new things. I have 0 regrets with the car thus far. |
Originally Posted by lamboworld
(Post 1596919996)
I love Nitrous. If your are going to run Nitrous you have to get your own mother bottle. My Nitrous guy will deliver a 50lb bottle to my house for $150. I only run 15lb bottles so the last a long time. |
I’m excited to see how well it performs. I’ve been kicking the idea around since there are no 4500 series DBW throttle bodies. In a perfect world I’d have a CID intake and the aforementioned DBW 4500 Accufab. lol |
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