Flintstone Braking system???
Hello,
I have an 81 with some brake issues. I have changed the master, and bled the system several times. At best I would get only a a half pedal, meaning that nothing happens until the pedal is depress at lest half way. The brakes after a few weeks go away (pedal to the floor) and the brake light comes on. I am not leaking fluid anywhere, but there is air getting into the system somewhere. I am going to pull and replace the caliper seals, but again there are no leaks that I can find anywhere. Has anyone else had this problem and more importantly solved it. Thanks. A special hello to Smokefoot in AZ. the gentleman I purchased the car from. A fellow forum member! Mike Fesi |
Originally Posted by visionary
(Post 1596997150)
Hello,
I have an 81 with some brake issues. I have changed the master, and bled the system several times. At best I would get only a a half pedal, meaning that nothing happens until the pedal is depress at lest half way. The brakes after a few weeks go away (pedal to the floor) and the brake light comes on. I am not leaking fluid anywhere, but there is air getting into the system somewhere. I am going to pull and replace the caliper seals, but again there are no leaks that I can find anywhere. Has anyone else had this problem and more importantly solved it. Thanks. A special hello to Smokefoot in AZ. the gentleman I purchased the car from. A fellow forum member! Mike Fesi EDIT......how are the brake hoses? Sometimes they break down internally and give you funky issues. |
Originally Posted by leadfoot4
(Post 1596997198)
Just asking......are you aware that the rear calipers have 2 bleeders, each?
EDIT......how are the brake hoses? Sometimes they break down internally and give you funky issues. |
I have seen calipers not leak a drop on the floor, but still manage to leak at the piston seals and they seem to take on air too. When you bench bled, you didn't go too far in the MC with the screwdriver did you? You will damage the seals / void the warranty.
1 3/8" max insertion of the piston. What type of the five bleeding methods did you use? Pedal Gravity Motive Pressure Vacuum Have someone else do it method. And the Flintstone brake system is better than the Navy brake system: dropping anchors. |
Originally Posted by visionary
(Post 1596997150)
Hello,
I have an 81 with some brake issues. I have changed the master, and bled the system several times. At best I would get only a a half pedal, meaning that nothing happens until the pedal is depress at lest half way. The brakes after a few weeks go away (pedal to the floor) and the brake light comes on. I am not leaking fluid anywhere, but there is air getting into the system somewhere. I am going to pull and replace the caliper seals, but again there are no leaks that I can find anywhere. Has anyone else had this problem and more importantly solved it. Thanks. A special hello to Smokefoot in AZ. the gentleman I purchased the car from. A fellow forum member! Mike Fesi Welcome to the Corvette brake hall of shame. :willy: I've been chasing this problem as well. I find that using a piston centering tool in the combination valve works well. Then bleed the brakes in the proper sequence. Have you checked your rotor runout? If the runout is over .002 you need to correct it. You do this by way of special shims. Excessive runout can introduce air into the brake system. What method are you using to bleed the brakes? Craig https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...4c3979c61d.png |
Originally Posted by Street Rat
(Post 1596997551)
Welcome to the Corvette brake hall of shame. :willy:
I've been chasing this problem as well. I find that using a piston centering tool in the combination valve works well. Then bleed the brakes in the proper sequence. Have you checked your rotor runout? If the runout is over .002 you need to correct it. You do this by way of special shims. Excessive runout can introduce air into the brake system. What method are you using to bleed the brakes? Craig https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...4c3979c61d.png I have used every bleeding method I know of. Finally I bought a vacuum bleeder system which works well, As for the run out I have not checked that yet. Seems like this should be a simple fix but it has not been. |
Originally Posted by visionary
(Post 1596997676)
Craig,
I have used every bleeding method I know of. Finally I bought a vacuum bleeder system which works well, As for the run out I have not checked that yet. Seems like this should be a simple fix but it has not been. Did you tilt your master cylinder forward, backward, and level when bench bleeding it? Minute bubbles can be an issue as well. Personally I prefer the Motive bleeders. Tap on the calipers to bring air to the surface while bleeding. No this is not a simple fix on these cars. There are too many variables in the equation that people overlook. What order did you use for bleeding the calipers? |
As soon as a poster says "installed New Master" the odds are 9 out of 10 times there's still air in the MC. Click on my profile and check out my photo album of bench bleeding.
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A few items to think about:
If you only drive your Corvette once in a while the brake pedal travel might be in spec. but seem to be lower than your used too. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...3f950f9a93.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...4f3c3d0212.jpg Do you have power brakes? If so see post 2 about adjusting the booster to master cylinder gap. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...l-on-78-a.html You say the pedal goes away (pedal to the floor). If the pedal goes away after driving so many miles then check your rotor run out. |
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