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Millenium Z06 04-23-2018 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by 427V8BB (Post 1597033662)


can I get a core charge of 2000$ first? Lol they’re not bad don’t be a smart ass but honestly you think you can get 700whp for a long time with the stock rods? 50k miles? Why can’t these engines be robust like the new 5.0s they can take 700-800whp with 50k miles (supposedly) from this performance shop that I was talking to about a blower for my friends car. Funny story my friend couldn’t wait so he bought it himself even though I told him to let me do it and the moron bought the wrong blower lmao

Coyotes cant make 7-800whp for 50k miles, most shear the oil pump drive off resulting in a seized motor; well short of 10K miles so IDK where you get your info but may want to dbl check it

427V8BB 04-23-2018 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Millenium Z06 (Post 1597060458)
Coyotes cant make 7-800whp for 50k miles, most shear the oil pump drive off resulting in a seized motor; well short of 10K miles so IDK where you get your info but may want to dbl check it

Maine performance shop that does work on mustang that was selling my buddy a pro charger. I low key knew it was bullshit but eh why not hope for it lol

427V8BB 04-23-2018 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by racebum (Post 1597059017)
use a shop that specializes in these cars. aren't you the guy who had issues with a build? while i would never bash a business without cause too many small town machine shops with egos have been responsible for broken parts. texas speed. lingenfelter, katech, AHP. use someone with history. everything from the ramp rates of the cam to knowing which end of the clearance spec is best for longevity comes with experience specific to this engine

forsure I didn’t mean to make it seem like he’s the smartest dude and you guys aren’t. I’m just trying to put off he knows his shit. Been doing it for 50 years and been working with LS since they came out. And was a metallurgy guy for gm for 50 years

427V8BB 04-23-2018 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by HP RESEARCH (Post 1597059289)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...acb6389ced.jpg
Stock Ti rod, re-coated by Calico with a forged Wiseco replacement piston


As you can see they are pretty generous with how much they coat it, but it least it helps against them rubbing into each other. We do also switch to a ARP bolt and all clearances are checked with them installed accordingly.


Thats what hat we were going to do but he got a set of rods from someone for a 1500hp build 4340 forged so he is gonna use this and made it valence almost close to stock.


Patriot Six 04-24-2018 12:09 AM

Stock rods with CP 10:1 pistons making 837whp on boost here. The pistons and sleeves will fail before the rods.

Nosferatu333 04-29-2018 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Must_Have_Z (Post 1597038977)
How many failures of stock rods has he seen or read about in 600/700HP cars? Isn't that evidence enough? I personally have never read about or seen it happen.

As far as I know there hasn’t been a failure at any power level were the ti rods have been found to be the root cause. Ask katech. I bought some and am getting them sent out to katech for rebushing for my 800 max hp 427 build. Swap pistons and keep it moving.

427V8BB 04-29-2018 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Nosferatu333 (Post 1597097580)
As far as I know there hasn’t been a failure at any power level were the ti rods have been found to be the root cause. Ask katech. I bought some and am getting them sent out to katech for rebushing for my 800 max hp 427 build. Swap pistons and keep it moving.

whp?

MikeOC 04-29-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by 427V8BB (Post 1597097606)


whp?

800whp would be ~941bhp, not impossible for a 427 with an unlimited budget but unlikely enough assume 800bhp which would be ~680whp.

Unreal 04-29-2018 01:59 PM

Always fun responding in a thread with a blocked OP, but a 600rwhp n/a bone stock ls7 can last 50k+ miles as proven time and time again, or blow up in <1k and a few months like the OP did to his. Quoting any type of time frame for a motor to last, without application, use, and all the unknowns like how stupid the owner is, quality of the tune, is impossible. You can drop $50k on a top of the line amazing 2000hp+ capable motor, and the OP could blow it up in <1000 miles.

427V8BB 04-29-2018 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 1597098392)
Always fun responding in a thread with a blocked OP, but a 600rwhp n/a bone stock ls7 can last 50k+ miles as proven time and time again, or blow up in <1k and a few months like the OP did to his. Quoting any type of time frame for a motor to last, without application, use, and all the unknowns like how stupid the owner is, quality of the tune, is impossible. You can drop $50k on a top of the line amazing 2000hp+ capable motor, and the OP could blow it up in <1000 miles.

sheesh, like I blew it up on purpose. It’s obvious it was from going lean. Nothing I did for it to happen btw it happened in like one month lol 2k miles

Nosferatu333 04-29-2018 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by 427V8BB (Post 1597097606)


whp?

Horse power to the wheels. I’m shooting for 750. All my tranny parts are rated to 800. Beyond 800 is psycho realm. Death wish on the street

427V8BB 04-29-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Nosferatu333 (Post 1597099377)
Horse power to the wheels. I’m shooting for 750. All my tranny parts are rated to 800. Beyond 800 is psycho realm. Death wish on the street


750WHP seems good to me lol gonna ask my engine builder if it can hold up to 750whp 30k miles at that power level seems reasonable. Im thinking of tearing my heads of and mamo intake tb and cai in a year or so and sell that stuff and get a set of good flowing ls9 heads and a ls9 blower and accessory kit and shoot for 750whp on E. i would like to do it in phases for power bump up 50hp i guess everytime.

Quick question would there be less stress on the motor if i lets say ported the blower? add 50hp that way than adding 1-2 pounds of boost?

lamboworld 04-29-2018 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by 427V8BB (Post 1597099534)
750WHP seems good to me lol gonna ask my engine builder if it can hold up to 750whp 30k miles at that power level seems reasonable. Im thinking of tearing my heads of and mamo intake tb and cai in a year or so and sell that stuff and get a set of good flowing ls9 heads and a ls9 blower and accessory kit and shoot for 750whp on E. i would like to do it in phases for power bump up 50hp i guess everytime.

Quick question would there be less stress on the motor if i lets say ported the blower? add 50hp that way than adding 1-2 pounds of boost?


you are all over the place. You can’t build a NA short block and then decide to go FI next year on the same short block. You are better using Nitrous if you want to be NA but have more hp at the track.

427V8BB 04-29-2018 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by lamboworld (Post 1597100678)



you are all over the place. You can’t build a NA short block and then decide to go FI next year on the same short block. You are better using Nitrous if you want to be NA but have more hp at the track.

its been my plan guy to have a ls7 setup to be NA and then down the road be capable to handle nos or boost if i wanted. at 11:1 compression on e85 which should be alright. hopefully lol.
:cheers:

NemeZ 04-30-2018 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by 427V8BB (Post 1597101690)
its been my plan guy to have a ls7 setup to be NA and then down the road be capable to handle nos or boost if i wanted. at 11:1 compression on e85 which should be alright. hopefully lol.
:cheers:

11:1 Is stock compression on a ls7. For boost you want less more like 10:1 or lower.

427V8BB 04-30-2018 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by NemeZ (Post 1597101795)

11:1 Is stock compression on a ls7. For boost you want less more like 10:1 or lower.

I was told from multiple tuners to stay at 10.5:1-11:1

do you drag race btw? maybe ill run into you some day racing. always love seeing vettes
:cheers:

NemeZ 04-30-2018 12:45 AM

Yeah been to Sac and Sonoma raceway. Car should be back up pretty soon.

427V8BB 04-30-2018 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by NemeZ (Post 1597101856)
Yeah been to Sac and Sonoma raceway. Car should be back up pretty soon.



what happen to yours? im planning mine to be ready in 2 months or less. gotta save up a little more for a clutch and intake setup lol then ship it to texas and get my crate engine back ready to throw in. and broke a coil over on the car that i just found! :leaving: oh **** and your not 40 years older than me. JFWY guys btw

lamboworld 04-30-2018 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by 427V8BB (Post 1597101690)
its been my plan guy to have a ls7 setup to be NA and then down the road be capable to handle nos or boost if i wanted. at 11:1 compression on e85 which should be alright. hopefully lol.
:cheers:

i run a 12:1 Nitrous setup and you can’t do that with FI. That is why I suggested that you decide your end game now so you don’t have to change something later that you can address now.

427V8BB 04-30-2018 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by lamboworld (Post 1597101905)


i run a 12:1 Nitrous setup and you can’t do that with FI. That is why I suggested that you decide your end game now so you don’t have to change something later that you can address now.

I was told it was for both would be fine to make 700-800hp


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