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79C3tnd 04-20-2018 08:14 PM

Procar Rally seats in a C3 - has anyone done this?
 
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I am building a vintage race replica based loosely on the 68 C3 DX cars. I also plan on doing some autocrossing with the car. I would like to keep the vintage look in the interior. My question is this: Has anyone installed, or attempted to install the Rally seats by Procar? Picture and dimensions are below. I went seat shopping today and was very impressed by the comfort and lumbar support in these seats, as well as the extra support these side bolsters offer. They definitely fit the vintage look I am going for, and look much better than I thought they would from pictures. However, the side bolsters are 22" at the widest point, and that may be an issue. Also at issue is the height of the brackets that procar makes to mount these. Looking for some info/feedback. Thanks in advance!

M A Fry 04-20-2018 10:40 PM

The width of the original seats is 19", 22" will definitely be tight.

Rodnok1 04-21-2018 08:04 AM

Brackets can always be modified or lower made but 22 wide might not actually fit.

derekderek 04-22-2018 09:27 AM

The orig C3 seats have very little padding and side support for a very good reason. The distance from your ass to the roof!

ignatz 04-23-2018 06:47 PM

Those seats are too big and too comfy. Do they have a massage feature? Racers probably had one Kirkey. I had one but swapped it out for Recaros which were a very tight fit.

Somebody here built a car that looks like what I think you want . You should look for it.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...3e33c14604.jpg

Richard454 04-23-2018 07:21 PM

Way to wide-anything more than 19 1/2" really won't work.

Something like this will fit- and has a vintage look

https://www.jegs.com/i/Cobra-Seats/2...-BKBK/10002/-1


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...1aa45506cf.png

RBrid 04-24-2018 12:39 AM

Also you may want to look at these seats: http://classiccarseats.com/weightanddimensions.php. Some are in the 19.5" neighborhood.

ignatz 04-24-2018 11:51 AM

This looks to be the build I was thinking of and here are the Kirkey seats

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1595685792

derekderek 04-24-2018 02:16 PM

The problem with high sides goes back to ass-to-roof dimensions and getting in and out of the car.

Jason Staley 04-24-2018 08:01 PM

I went with Kirkey's for x-cross and track days, but made them removable so I could still run my factory seats if I wanted to take the car on a road trip or just cruising. You have to be a bit flexible to get in and out, but I'm over 6' tall. There is no way to look graceful getting in and out of the car with the Kirkey's installed though :lol:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...4c10948c46.jpg

79C3tnd 04-24-2018 08:34 PM

I have pretty much made up my mind that I'm going to go at the kirkey vintage buckets. I will be running a quick adapter on the steering wheel so that it can be easily removed, that should help with getting in and out. But I'm sure it won't be graceful. LOL

ignatz 04-24-2018 09:10 PM

I had a seat just like Jasons and support was excellent. Removable steering wheel sounds like a real plus. I fashioned an aluminum adapter plate that mounted to the stock holes. Then I put the bolts in from the bottom so that I could quickly exchange the stock seats with the Kirkey. Spin four nuts off and on. Maybe 5 minutes.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...984c6ccf5d.jpg

79C3tnd 04-24-2018 11:18 PM

Thanks for all of the feedback. Jason, what seat bracket are you using? Is it a slider? I am looking at brackets from Corbeau and Wedge, with double locking sliders, as I will not always be the one driving the car. I still intend to have the kirkey rear mount, with a few easy to remove bolts for when the seat needs to be adjusted.

ignatz 04-25-2018 01:37 PM

Just to mess with your head, here's my current setup


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2c592adcf9.jpg

79C3tnd 04-25-2018 04:13 PM

Ha! I just pulled the trigger and ordered a Kirkey Vintage bucket/cover/rear support/bracket to try out on the driver's side. What are you running for your harness bar?

ignatz 04-25-2018 04:24 PM

The Kirkey is a better seat for autocrossing so I don't think you'll be sorry from that point of view. The bar is a "Sharkbar" from vetteworks. On another ongoing handling thread, I've learned that their current design differs from mine a bit..

79C3tnd 04-25-2018 10:31 PM

I'm familiar with the Shark Bar, but yours is mounted differently than any that I've seen previously, so that's what threw me off ..

suprspooky 04-27-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by ignatz (Post 1597073284)
Just to mess with your head, here's my current setup


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2c592adcf9.jpg

Is this a current Recaro and where did you get it/them?
Thx, Dave

ignatz 04-27-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by suprspooky (Post 1597088024)
Is this a current Recaro and where did you get it/them?
Thx, Dave

The picture is five years old so I can't comment much on what's current.

As to installation, very tight so be careful. I wanted the tilt feature so I could get better access to the rear compartments. If I get some time I will rummage through my receipts and see what I bought and edit this..

Seat seems to be still available, look here for instance. I am pretty sure I paid closer to $600 back then but I can't find that receipt.

https://thmotorsports.com/recaro/rec.../i-247591.aspx

Note - I had to cutoff one of the adjustment knobs in the pivot area to get it to fit

Jason Staley 04-28-2018 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by 79C3tnd (Post 1597069761)
Thanks for all of the feedback. Jason, what seat bracket are you using? Is it a slider? I am looking at brackets from Corbeau and Wedge, with double locking sliders, as I will not always be the one driving the car. I still intend to have the kirkey rear mount, with a few easy to remove bolts for when the seat needs to be adjusted.

I custom made adapters for the Kirkey aluminum standard side mounts. The side mounts bolt to the side of the seat, but they do have some adjustment holes built into them. I was looking for max leg/head room so I didn't use sliders. The seat is positioned for me and is not adjustable in my setup. If you get a Kirkey seat, I highly recommend their lumbar support. It's an overpriced piece of foam that you rivet into the seat back, but it does make the seat SOOOO much more comfortable.


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