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belairbrian 07-05-2018 12:33 PM

A/C Clutch Not engaging
 
92 LT1 Coupe. A/C has been working fine before today.

The A/C stopped making cold air. Auto light was flashing instead of steady. Turned system off and Off light was Flashing. Then quit flashing. Pressed Auto again and Auto light was on steady, but no cold air. Parked and opened the hood and the compressor was not engaged.

Here's what I know so far.
I do not have 12v to the clutch connector with the system on in auto, temp set to 65.
Put the gauges on and with compressor not running low side maxed out the gauge.
The car was converted to R134a at some point prior to me purchasing. High side fitting is where I would expect. The low side is on the dryer. Is this normal?

The troubleshooting diagram requires a tech 1 for most of the steps which I don't have. Anyone have a set of troubleshooting steps that don't require a tech 1?


81c3 07-05-2018 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by belairbrian (Post 1597539925)
92 LT1 Coupe. A/C has been working fine before today.

The A/C stopped making cold air. Auto light was flashing instead of steady. Turned system off and Off light was Flashing. Then quit flashing. Pressed Auto again and Auto light was on steady, but no cold air. Parked and opened the hood and the compressor was not engaged.

Here's what I know so far.
I do not have 12v to the clutch connector with the system on in auto, temp set to 65.
Put the gauges on and with compressor not running low side maxed out the gauge.
The car was converted to R134a at some point prior to me purchasing. High side fitting is where I would expect. The low side is on the dryer. Is this normal?

The troubleshooting diagram requires a tech 1 for most of the steps which I don't have. Anyone have a set of troubleshooting steps that don't require a tech 1?

Press the up/down fan speed for 5 seconds and it will show 00 then press the button in the middle, it will show a code. That will give you more direction.... And yes, the low side fitting is on the dryer on mine also..I just was messing with mine yesterday....

WVZR-1 07-05-2018 01:02 PM

See 1C-1-3 and the following few for the diagnostic codes with C68. It's NOT an 'answer all' but it's there so use it.

PatternDayTrader 07-06-2018 12:23 AM

You don't need the tech1 for this job.
​​​You need a wiring schematic. It's probably something stupid like the low side switch is bad or the fuse has blown.

belairbrian 07-06-2018 09:20 AM

Hi guys thanks for the inputs. I ran the diagnostic and it returned a 09 code (low Freon). I jumpered the compressor at the relay, put the gauges on and was around 21/210 at 2000 rpms. I added some 134, and brought it up to 34/250 and the system started working.

With a thermometer in the center dash vents I was seeing 41-45 F on a 10 mile test drive at 88 ambient.
At some point dye had been put in as I had some at the high side fitting. There was avery faint indication at the switch on the low side pipe by the evap housing. SO may need to look at that.

billschroeder5842 07-06-2018 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by belairbrian (Post 1597545305)
With a thermometer in the center dash vents I was seeing 41-45 F on a 10 mile test drive at 88 ambient.
.

I had the identical problem... 09. Freon (134a) and my 91 came back to life. My blows ar 42 with the car "cool" sitting in the Texas sun and I can't get ti to blow below 52. Too much glass on these C4s I suppose?

belairbrian 07-06-2018 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by billschroeder5842 (Post 1597546526)
I had the identical problem... 09. Freon (134a) and my 91 came back to life. My blows ar 42 with the car "cool" sitting in the Texas sun and I can't get ti to blow below 52. Too much glass on these C4s I suppose?

Bill.
It gets hot in Texas? Didn't notice it Marching around Lackland one July in my youth.:D

Mine is sitting outside in the sun right now it's 91 (heat index 98). I'll see what she reads at the vent on the way home.

Believe it or not my Acura MDX is worse when it sits. You can't touch the steering wheel even if there is a sun shade on the windshield. But try and drive ten miles with the AC on full and you'll freeze yourself out.

PatternDayTrader 07-06-2018 03:07 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...13d2e45d0d.jpg

90+ degrees, blower on low ac on recirculate.

belairbrian 07-06-2018 05:34 PM

Here's some pics of what I had this afternoon. The temp gauge is in the center dash vent above the DIC.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...7b31c93793.jpg

OAT at key on
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...3b46289ee5.jpg

duct temp at key on
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...0281dc192a.jpg

1 mile later
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...0d4adac096.jpg

Low as it got
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...aecadd8db1.jpg

Engine temp 196

billschroeder5842 07-06-2018 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader (Post 1597547535)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...13d2e45d0d.jpg

90+ degrees, blower on low ac on recirculate.

PDT... As my teenage daughter would say "I'm so jealous "i hate you!"

PatternDayTrader 07-06-2018 09:25 PM

Lol …


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