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SocalChvy 08-14-2018 05:23 PM

Stock ZR1 vs Stock Z06
 

Fun starts at 7:00

trevor90 08-14-2018 05:28 PM

lets try auto vs zr1 next time

SocalChvy 08-14-2018 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by trevor90 (Post 1597791843)
lets try auto vs zr1 next time

That would be cool but its "run what you brung."

An auto will keep things closer from 0-60 but the ZR1 will still pull away.

timmyZ06 08-14-2018 05:38 PM

dude in the Z06 cant shift for shit!!

Mr. Gizmo 08-14-2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by trevor90 (Post 1597791843)
lets try auto vs zr1 next time

the auto z06 on a roll race is slower then a m7 z06. It’s surprising only zr1’s 100 more horsepower walks the z06 this bad. a 500 hp c6z06 would walk a c7z06 on a roll race.

Z0HS1CK 08-14-2018 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by trevor90 (Post 1597791843)
lets try auto vs zr1 next time

An auto C7Z is actually slower.

In a roll race, a manual Z would be faster, depending on how far up in the MPH you're going to go.

But why is any of this a surprise? The C7 ZR1 is a monster. Makes a ton of power in the worst conditions so anything better than extreme conditions, it's actually a lot faster/more efficient. GM did not play any games with this car and learned all their mistakes from the z06. They weren't going to make the same mistake twice.

I am still waiting anxiously for the C8. If it's no bueno, i'm upgrading to a manual ZR1 ASAP!

Ted P 08-14-2018 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo (Post 1597792002)


the auto z06 on a roll race is slower then a m7 z06. It’s surprising only zr1’s 100 more horsepower walks the z06 this bad. a 500 hp c6z06 would walk a c7z06 on a roll race.


you can't be serious dude. maybe a c6 zri but a 500 hp c6z06 walking a c7z06? why do you post such nonsense?

jlbjr 08-14-2018 06:56 PM

I stopped watching the video because the guy couldn’t drive the ZO6.

Ego-Trip 08-14-2018 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo (Post 1597792002)

a 500 hp c6z06 would walk a c7z06 on a roll race.

Please explain your logic behind this quote.

3 Z06ZR1 08-14-2018 07:11 PM

So who leaves the Z06 stock? The Z06 and 10k in mods and the race looks the same only the other way around! MEH! :rock:

Mr. Gizmo 08-14-2018 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ego-Trip (Post 1597792445)
Please explain your logic behind this quote.


Originally Posted by Ted P (Post 1597792190)
you can't be serious dude. maybe a c6 zri but a 500 hp c6z06 walking a c7z06? why do you post such nonsense?


well I currently own a 2017 c7z06 m7 and had a 2009 c6z06. The c6 felt faster to me.
And car and driver reports a 0- 150 mph on the c6z06 of 17.3 seconds december 2008 for a 2009 z06 . Car and driver reports 17.8 seconds for a 2015 c7z06 m7. The c7 is half a second slower . Given the c7 is a bit quicker 0-80mph. The c6z06 makes up some serious ground on the big end to catch the c7z06 and ultimately is a half second quicker to 150 mph. There for in a roll race 50 on up 150mph and then on to top speed of which a c6z is 8 to 10 mph faster then a c7z06 a c6z will stomp a mud hole in the ass of a c7z in a higher speed roll race.

3 Z06ZR1 08-14-2018 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by jlbjr (Post 1597792400)
I stopped watching the video because the guy couldn’t drive the ZO6.

Hurts your eyes how bad it is! Every shift is bad! Hangs till he shifts! Piss poor shifting from the Z06 driver!

3 Z06ZR1 08-14-2018 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo (Post 1597792627)





well I currently own a 2017 c7z06 m7 and had a 2009 c6z06. The c6 felt faster to me.
And car and driver reports a 0- 150 mph on the c6z06 of 17.3 seconds december 2008 for a 2009 z06 . Car and driver reports 17.8 seconds for a 2015 c7z06 m7. The c7 is half a second slower . Given the c7 is a bit quicker 0-80mph. The c6z06 makes up some serious ground on the big end to catch the c7z06 and ultimately is a half second quicker to 150 mph. There for in a roll race 50 on up 150mph and then on to top speed of which a c6z is 8 to 10 mph faster a c6z will stomp a mud hole in the ass of a c7z in a higher speed roll race.

Stock to stock your full of beans and I owned 2 C6 Z06's and put a lot more miles on than you! All those cars than you! Cannot help if your C7z06 is slow poke. C6Z06 bone stock is only 450 rwhp and not all that!

ckassen 08-14-2018 07:46 PM

I ran a cam/exhaust C6Z vs my stock '16 M7Z06 and the race was a bit over 1 car length, but the C7Z came out on top. Uncertain on whether the car had heads.
60-145MPH

OnPoint 08-14-2018 07:49 PM

Vid is not a huge surprise.

SocalChvy 08-14-2018 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by ckassen (Post 1597792714)
I ran a cam/exhaust C6Z vs my stock '16 M7Z06 and the race was a bit over 1 car length, but the C7Z came out on top. Uncertain on whether the car had heads.
60-145MPH

All cam and exhaust setups are not made equal. Some guys go cheap on the parts, tuning or simply don't piece together the right package. There are cam and exhaust C6 Z06s that you will run with and there are some that will blow your doors off.

ckassen 08-14-2018 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by SocalChvy (Post 1597792820)
All cam and exhaust setups are not made equal. Some guys go cheap on the parts, tuning or simply don't piece together the right package. There are cam and exhaust C6 Z06s that you will run with and there are some that will blow your doors off.

You are absolutely correct that you cannot lump all cams in the same category. I also agree that there are some cam'd cars that might blow my doors off, but I imagine they are also the ones with ported heads... whether they say so or not...

Summary is that you likely need +60whp on a C7Z to outrun a C6Z... also have to make sure you're not pulling timing, car needs to be cool...

cvp33 08-14-2018 08:53 PM

Z06 driver clearly doesn't know about no-lift-shift. Absolutely the only way to have a shot against an automatic car. Although I believe the outcome would be the same.......especially from 100mph up.

Mr. Gizmo 08-14-2018 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1 (Post 1597792679)
Stock to stock your full of beans and I owned 2 C6 Z06's and put a lot more miles on than you! All those cars than you! Cannot help if your C7z06 is slow poke. C6Z06 bone stock is only 450 rwhp and not all that!

maybe, maybe not. Or you happened to get 2 very slow bone stock c6z’s and that’s why you think the stock c7z is faster. all The tests demonstrate the c6z is faster 0 to 150 and they will post a higher top speed.

senseiturtle 08-14-2018 09:01 PM

The c6z06 does have a pretty substantial weight advantage.
Perhaps there are gearing differences as well. This would need to be verified by people who know more.

Otherwise, i think it's incredibly situational when comparing the c6z and c7z.


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