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Originally Posted by bigblock427
(Post 1597846359)
Acknowledge that. ACR was a beast! Another purpose built sports car and one that would be fun to own.
If you are going to compare horsepower then you have to compare money spent. Each manufacture chose to spend money where they chose to spend it in order to make their performance car. Porsche just happened to chose to spend a lot more money than Chevrolet to make their produce their car. I am sure GM is more than qualified to improve the ZR1 and sell it at a higher price. But that is not what they chose to do. I am not flaming any of the manufacturers. All the cars on that list are outstanding cars. But some people gripe about the quality or performance of a Corvette especially when it comes to comparisons. But money buys a lot of quality and performance. You cannot dispute that.:cheers: |
Originally Posted by UnhandledException
(Post 1597845408)
It feels utterly quiet here.:lurk:
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Originally Posted by xlr8ion
(Post 1597849774)
On that note the ZR1 is truly about $30-40k over priced.Its a $95-105K car thats it.
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The ZR1 was within 3 seconds of the fastest lap which was performed by the Porsche 911 GT2 RS. A car that is virtually unobtainable. And even if you can obtain one, its true cost with ADM is approximately $400,000! With the exception of the Viper ACR, which is no longer available, all of the other 5 car which had a quicker lap than the ZR1 are CONSIDERABLY more expensive than the Corvette and are also difficult if not impossible to obtain. The ZR1 can be purchased throughout the United States at a MSRP of $125,000 to $150,000. They are easily serviced at virtually any Chevrolet dealer. Bottom line, they're easy to obtain and maintain at a very reasonable cost, relative to the competition. The ZR1 wins in the real world, hands down!
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Originally Posted by DebRedZR1
(Post 1597849893)
wow that means I overpaid 50 k on my Z and they should be handing out Base models for free. |
Originally Posted by bronco
(Post 1597850021)
The ZR1 was within 3 seconds of the fastest lap which was performed by the Porsche 911 GT2 RS. A car that is virtually unobtainable. And even if you can obtain one, its true cost with ADM is approximately $400,000! With the exception of the Viper ACR, which is no longer available, all of the other 5 car which had a quicker lap than the ZR1 are CONSIDERABLY more expensive than the Corvette and are also difficult if not impossible to obtain. The ZR1 can be purchased throughout the United States at a MSRP of $125,000 to $150,000. They are easily serviced at virtually any Chevrolet dealer. Bottom line, they're easy to obtain and maintain at a very reasonable cost, relative to the competition. The ZR1 wins in the real world, hands down!
You could also say its “only” 10 mph slower to quarter mile (compared to 720s and gt2rs which both trap 140 and above vs 131 for zr1) which we know is usually difference between two classes of cars. You guys are just hilarious. You literally want to see what you want to see and cannot remove the blinders. Even if zr1 did lose to base 911 carrera you would find some angle to defend it:) |
Originally Posted by UnhandledException
(Post 1597850322)
You quote “3” to make it look like its a small difference but on that particular track 3 seconds is like 20 seconds in nurburgring (which btw sort of makes sense given we know what gt2rs did there and zr1). You could also say its “only” 10 mph slower to quarter mile (compared to 720s and gt2rs which both trap 140 and above vs 131 for zr1) which we know is usually difference between two classes of cars. You guys are just hilarious. You literally want to see what you want to see and cannot remove the blinders. Even if zr1 did lose to base 911 carrera you would find some angle to defend it:) |
The Mac 720s is proving out to be quite the beast. And what's up with the Mac 675LT time? |
Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow
(Post 1597850323)
No. He means that the zr1 doesn't have 50k in upgrades over a z06... Definitely not. Maybe 20k. Btw base model to base model that difference is 40k.
Zero. That's what I thought. |
Originally Posted by bronco
(Post 1597850392)
Easy solution to your predicament: Spend $350,000 and pick up the 3 seconds.
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
(Post 1597850583)
No I will spend same amount of money as zr1 and get a gt3. Almost as fast but way more raw, stable, fun, and higher build quality overall. Zr1 costs way too much for $49,000 stingray interior and fit and finish and a big ass push rod old school engine with a supecharger |
Originally Posted by UnhandledException
(Post 1597850583)
No I will spend same amount of money as zr1 and get a gt3. Almost as fast but way more raw, stable, fun, and higher build quality overall. Zr1 costs way too much for $49,000 stingray interior and fit and finish and a big ass push rod old school engine with a supecharger |
The funniest part of that is widespread use of OHC tech actually pre-dated widespread use of OHV (pushrod) tech.
And neither are new tech - each with its pros and cons. |
Originally Posted by xlr8ion
(Post 1597849774)
On that note the ZR1 is truly about $30-40k over priced.Its a $95-105K car thats it.
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Originally Posted by UnhandledException
No I will spend same amount of money as zr1 and get a gt3. Almost as fast but way more raw, stable, fun, and higher build quality overall. Zr1 costs way too much for $49,000 stingray interior and fit and finish and a big ass push rod old school engine with a supecharger |
Originally Posted by Poor-sha
(Post 1597851285)
The 991 GT3 isn't even close to the ZR1 on track. Need me to go dig up some video to prove it? I could easily run them down in the Z06.
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Originally Posted by jvp
(Post 1597850487)
And you can say this after turning how many laps in both cars in anger at a race track?
Zero. That's what I thought. |
Originally Posted by GrapemanZR1
(Post 1597851026)
Have you driven one? I've had a lot of nice cars (Aston Martins, Porsches, Mercedes', BMWs). I'll stack the fit and finish of this car up to all of them. This is not a cheap car, and I think it's a bargain.
The zr1 has performance and features. Fit and finish are bottom of the list. |
Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow
(Post 1597851639)
The fit and finish of a zr1 is likely the same as a 60k stingray. The interior is the same. The paint is the same.
The zr1 has performance and features. Fit and finish are bottom of the list. |
Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow
(Post 1597851639)
The fit and finish of a zr1 is likely the same as a 60k stingray. The interior is the same. The paint is the same.
The zr1 has performance and features. Fit and finish are bottom of the list. |
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