Center gauge and door chime problems 1981
So I finally got around to installing my new head unit and rewiring my speakers. Now it sounds great, however, none of my center gauges work and the only way to get the door chime to go off is to connect the seatbelt. I thought the big connector clip that plugs in behind the gauges only goes one way but is it possible i put it in upside down? As far as the door chime...I have no idea. I read some posts about lubing the key and put it in and out of the ignition cylinder but even after I shut the car off, it still goes off for a period of time. It sounds like it would last as long as the courtesy timer keeps the lights on. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. And the car is an 81 and everything worked prior to radio swap. I also had a head unit in there so no other wires were spliced or touched other than radio wires. TIA!
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In my 77, the center gauges plug is wired as follows:
Passengers side top to bottom black (ground) green pink w black or white stripe (this goes to my seat belt timer & buzzer and Key Warning buzzer) empty empty orange Drivers side top to bottom gray pink yellow black (ground) brown dk blue |
I'm putting some replacement gauges in my '81. The connector should only go one way unless Bubba has been there.I haven't got it all connected yet. Here is the connector. I think you have a hot wire powering the chime somehow. Check the gauge fuse first and an the possibility of a reversed connector. You may have hit a hot to a ground and blown the fuse. Be sure to always disconnect the battery before working on electrical items.
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I agree the connector should only go in one way. Just be sure that the PCB on the gauges in in good condition especially around the connector. I had problems with mine in that area. (left the lights on but switched the ignition off and the engine stayed running😂)
Could also be a poor ground so may need to check that |
Thanks for the info and pics everyone. I am going to try to work on it tomorrow at some point and hope its an easy fix. Is there an easy way to tell if the control board is bad? And if it is, is it hard to replace?
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Originally Posted by shaun8484
(Post 1597877787)
Thanks for the info and pics everyone. I am going to try to work on it tomorrow at some point and hope its an easy fix. Is there an easy way to tell if the control board is bad? And if it is, is it hard to replace?
Easy job to do. |
Finally going to pull this apart today to try to figure it out. I forgot to mention that I had put LED bulbs in the center gauges, that wouldn't have anything to do with it would it?
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Have LEDs in mine.no issues.
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Don't forget to check the GAUGES fuse. It's way up high in the box and extremely difficult to see/access.
Check the "fingers" in the printed circuit where the connector goes in. They are prone to loosening and shorting against one another. Applied very carefully, gel type superglue will hold them into place. Replacement circuits are readily available in, in my opinion, superior in quality. The only problem is that they are significantly thinner and the low fuel warning module may not connect securely. Install a piece of thin cardboard (like the back of a notepad) between the metal body and the circuit and the module will fit in tightly. |
Unfortunately, I have not had the time to even look at this with everything I have going on. I did however take her for a quick spin around the block the other day and not only do the gauges not work, now that radio doesn't even work and the rear deforest will only come on if I push it up hard and hold it. Once I release pressure the light goes out...Im so lost and have no time to even look at it. Does these extra problems narrow it down at all? Hopefully it is just a fuse.
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So I finally got to work on her today. Everything now works except the temp gauge and the fuel gauge and the seatbelt light. Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by shaun8484
(Post 1598879988)
So I finally got to work on her today. Everything now works except the temp gauge and the fuel gauge and the seatbelt light. Any ideas?
What is the temp guage doing? This can narrow it down a lot. Are you still using LEDs for the lights? If you are have you tried turning them around? Most LEDs only work one way. |
Originally Posted by Antz81
(Post 1598881577)
Have you replaced the printed circuit?
What is the temp guage doing? This can narrow it down a lot. Are you still using LEDs for the lights? If you are have you tried turning them around? Most LEDs only work one way. |
So Just a follow up, I got the chime to stop by sliding the key in and out with a small dab of white lithium grease, so that works great now. The top of the plug for the center gauges was not clipped all the way in at the top so I have clipped that in, however it does not appear that the fuel gauge or the temp gauge are working, unless I didn't let it run long enough and I am actually out of gas. The copper or brass part of the PCB fingers has come away from the board itself, could this be the issue? Would anyone recommend just replacing the PCB anyway due to age and to just rule it out of the equation? Thanks for the advice everyone.
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ok, good news and bad news. Well not necessarily bad i guess but anyway, took the 81 for a ride to get some gas...turns out the gas gauge DOES work, I just had NO gas. Temp gauge still doesnt work though. I did buy a new PCB from Wilcox and will install that, hopefully that will fix the problem. As far as the door chime goes, not only does it no longer go off when it shouldn't, it no longer goes off when it should....
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Originally Posted by shaun8484
(Post 1599032345)
ok, good news and bad news. Well not necessarily bad i guess but anyway, took the 81 for a ride to get some gas...turns out the gas gauge DOES work, I just had NO gas. Temp gauge still doesnt work though. I did buy a new PCB from Wilcox and will install that, hopefully that will fix the problem. As far as the door chime goes, not only does it no longer go off when it shouldn't, it no longer goes off when it should....
As far as the door chime i just had an issue with mine, where it would randomly start buzzing for no reason giving me a flat battery. Found all of the terminals on it were loose causing it to do strange things. I don't believe there is a replacement available, and repairing the loose connections is not the easiest unless you are good with a soldering iron. |
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