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MikieG1971 10-11-2018 06:07 PM

Really Bad Rattle noise
 
My son was driving my 96 Lt4 6spd. He said when he shut the car off, it was fine. After school upon restarting there was a terrible rattle.
I have isolated to the "drum" looking device on the exhaust right behind the driver side exhaust manifold. Sounds like there is something loose in there.
What are your thoughts?
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jmgtp 10-11-2018 06:14 PM

That is a catalytic converter. There are 2 on your 94, one on each bank. Per your description, seems the catalyst has broken free and is rattling around. Solutions are replace with a new/used unit or replace with a segment of pipe and eliminate the converter (illegal).

edit: when the car is cold, rap the converter with your fist, you should hear it rattle and confirm that it is the source. Double edit - I said 94 above, but your 96 is the same. 2 converters.

RetroGuy 10-11-2018 06:49 PM

Verify first at least one of your cats is actually rattling internally and defective. If you live in a state that doesn't require catalytic converters, just replace both cats with straight pipe same as what it's connected to. I'd have a shop weld it in. If you must replace the cats, you can investigate high performance cats too.

3D-Aircrew 10-12-2018 11:00 AM

Even if the state doesn't have inspection requirements for having the CATS it is a federal law that governs. I would replace with OEM or equivalent Cat IMHO.

RetroGuy 10-12-2018 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by rharker (Post 1598146800)
Even if the state doesn't have inspection requirements for having the CATS it is a federal law that governs. I would replace with OEM or equivalent Cat IMHO.

Therefore one needs to investigate prior removing...

jmgtp 10-12-2018 11:08 AM

There’s no need to investigate, it’s federal law. Plus cars without cats smell terrible. If it’s a street car, I vote keep, or replace with high flow.

billschroeder5842 10-12-2018 02:58 PM

Before you chuck the cats, make sure that the heat shield is not loose. I had a shild come loose on my 91 and it rattled like hell. I tighten it up with a little effort and it quieted down. Worth a look.

Mike Holmen 10-12-2018 03:31 PM

Sell the old cats to a recycler and get some money towards new cats.

MikieG1971 10-14-2018 01:26 AM

It's not the shield. It's inside it. Amazing how bad it sounds!

RetroGuy 10-14-2018 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by MikieG1971 (Post 1598156058)
It's not the shield. It's inside it. Amazing how bad it sounds!

Best Bet: Start researching high flow / performance cats for your year now...

ctmccloskey 10-16-2018 10:45 AM

I agree with the above postings that suggest you upgrade to High Flow catalytic converters.

I have a 1988 C4 and when I installed the Cat-back system that is on my car I also installed a high flow catalytic. According to my GTECH Pro I gained just over 14 hp after the Cat back system and high flow catalytic converter. They made an improvement in my power and helped keep the engine legal. I am a big believer in keeping the car's emissions clean and have everything working.

Here in Virginia they check to be sure that the catalytic is there on the Annual safety inspections. If the catalytic converters shell is missing then you will fail. But remember that this is a Federal law that prohibits the removal of the catalytic converter.

If you choose to eliminate the catalytic converters I would suggest that you remove them and clean out the ceramic insert from within and then re-install the converter shell. This way reduces the questions at inspection time.

Good Luck

pacoW 10-16-2018 12:19 PM

I would add a 3rd option if you're somewhat handy. You can hollow out the cat's if your county/state does not check emissions. Federal law requires that emissions equipment that came with the car not be removed, you hollow out the cat's no one will know. I've done this on a few vehicles over the years. My state requires annual inspection, it will not pass with bypass pipes, the cat has to be there, even though they don't check for emissions.

RetroGuy 10-17-2018 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by pacoW (Post 1598168943)
I would add a 3rd option if you're somewhat handy. You can hollow out the cat's if your county/state does not check emissions. Federal law requires that emissions equipment that came with the car not be removed, you hollow out the cat's no one will know. I've done this on a few vehicles over the years. My state requires annual inspection, it will not pass with bypass pipes, the cat has to be there, even though they don't check for emissions.

Effective, but sneaky.

MikieG1971 10-20-2018 04:03 PM

We done check anything in my state. $140 later, problem solved.
I have also noticed the "hiccup" it had under heavy and sudden acceleration is now gone as well.
WIN/WIN!!!!!

ctmccloskey 10-22-2018 02:57 PM

Well done getting it fixed and back on the roads!

What was the $140 for? When you share the results we all learn from your experience. This in turn will help others who experience the same issue.

I really like things when they turn into "Win-Win" situations, I wish it happened more often....

MikieG1971 10-22-2018 04:22 PM

We don't check anything in my state.

Bfenty 10-23-2018 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by ctmccloskey (Post 1598203981)
Well done getting it fixed and back on the roads!

What was the $140 for? When you share the results we all learn from your experience. This in turn will help others who experience the same issue.

I really like things when they turn into "Win-Win" situations, I wish it happened more often....


Originally Posted by MikieG1971 (Post 1598204504)
We don't check anything in my state.

I don't think that answers the question...


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