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TimCarlson 10-24-2018 11:23 AM

2019 Z06 base or 2019 GS with options
 
Hello Vette guys... curious of opinions on would you by a Base 2019 Z06 for $71k ($81k MSRP) or a 2019 GrandSport with options?

TOPSPOT 10-24-2018 01:06 PM

It all honestly comes down to what you plan to do with the car. I personally wanted to create my own beast so i ordered a Z06 with all of the options I wanted. I knew I wanted to highly modify the vette so I chose the Z06 over the ZR1, plus I am saving money while making more horsepower.

If you are daily driving, either car will be fine as far as how they handle in the street. The options will definitely help you more for daily driving as the front cameras have saved my ass numerous times. If you plan on modding the car, or tracking, the lighter the car, the better.

TimCarlson 10-24-2018 01:27 PM

Thanks fro the reply, no plans to track the car, it will remain stock, I have a 2008 Z06 now and would like to upgrade to a C7, but the options on these new vettes are quite pricy, Basically it will be a weekend and Corvette Club car.. seems GrandSports are a dime a dozen....A base Z06 may hold it's value better.. Truth always comes down to money, don't want to spend more than $71k. and than means a base Z06 or a GrandSport with options

3 Z06ZR1 10-24-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by TimCarlson (Post 1598215305)
Hello Vette guys... curious of opinions on would you by a Base 2019 Z06 for $71k ($81k MSRP) or a 2019 GrandSport with options?

Buy the Z06 it will hold the dollar much better and is the better car IMO!

3 Z06ZR1 10-24-2018 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by TimCarlson (Post 1598216081)
Thanks fro the reply, no plans to track the car, it will remain stock, I have a 2008 Z06 now and would like to upgrade to a C7, but the options on these new vettes are quite pricy, Basically it will be a weekend and Corvette Club car.. seems GrandSports are a dime a dozen....A base Z06 may hold it's value better.. Truth always comes down to money, don't want to spend more than $71k. and than means a base Z06 or a GrandSport with options

Options lose money REAL quick. If you want those buy a 2017 3 lz for in the low 70's. I would go with the 2019 1 lz at discount.

BMadden 10-24-2018 03:05 PM

Not even a question, get the base Z06. There isn't a single option in the 2LZ or 3LZ packages that makes up for that extra 200hp. :thumbs:

TimCarlson 10-24-2018 03:23 PM

Thanks, I seem to be leaning that way.

Bill Dearborn 10-24-2018 03:37 PM

The best bang for the buck car is the 2LZ. You get some options that make the car a little more comfortable when traveling. Since you aren't planning on tracking the car don't bother with the Comp Seats. Here are the things the 2LZ has the 1LZ doesn't have.
  • Lumbar/wing adjust - Really nice to have on long trips
  • Heated/vented seats - Also nice to have on long trips
  • 10-speaker Bose® premium audio - user dependent
  • Front Curb View Cameras - Really nice to have when pulling into parking spots. Can prevent costly damage to front of car. I usually end up parking 3 or 4 ft away from the curb since I can't see it when pulling into a spot.
  • Universal Home Remote
  • Auto-dimming mirrors
  • Memory Package
  • Enhanced Theft-Deterrent Package - Some people may think this is a detriment. Throw a piece of paper through an open window and the alarm goes off. If you have OnStar the car will send you an email saying the alarm was set off. Nice to have at something like Cars and Coffee. You can wander away from the car but it can call for help.
  • Luggage shade/cargo net

Bill

jcchevy 10-24-2018 04:10 PM

Had almost the same decision back in late 2016. I was selling my 09 Z and was debating on the GS vs Z06. As I shopped around, I found a new 2016 Z (2LZ A8, LBR) and was able to purchase if for less than the local dealer would sell me the 2017 GS! It was a no brainer. I have had it for 2 years, and logged 9K miles on it - the car has been fantastic. I also felt going to the GS from the 09 Z was a step down. My 09 Z was a great car but I wanted some of the new refinements. I believe the Z will always hold its value better than the GS. There are several Z’s sitting on Lots that are worth considering. Just my opinion.

TimCarlson 10-24-2018 04:19 PM

Thanks for the note, it seems the common opinion is to get a Z06 even if I can't afford a loaded one. I did find a new 2017 Z06 3lz MSRP of $101,000 for sale at $79,000... but i am stilll leaning to just get a 2019 even if I have to get a base Z06... it seems a base 2019 Z06 is $72,000 after discunts and then it jumps way up to low 80's for a 2lz....

dvilin 10-24-2018 04:36 PM

Z06 all the way.

3 Z06ZR1 10-24-2018 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by TimCarlson (Post 1598217179)
Thanks for the note, it seems the common opinion is to get a Z06 even if I can't afford a loaded one. I did find a new 2017 Z06 3lz MSRP of $101,000 for sale at $79,000... but i am stilll leaning to just get a 2019 even if I have to get a base Z06... it seems a base 2019 Z06 is $72,000 after discunts and then it jumps way up to low 80's for a 2lz....

The base Z06 is the way to go just add the dimming mirror when you add your needed mirror tap for the radar detector 130-150 for the mirror. Takes 1 minute to swap!
Cargo shade and net is cheap too takes another minute.

Hate2Wait 10-24-2018 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by TimCarlson (Post 1598217179)
Thanks for the note, it seems the common opinion is to get a Z06 even if I can't afford a loaded one. I did find a new 2017 Z06 3lz MSRP of $101,000 for sale at $79,000... but i am stilll leaning to just get a 2019 even if I have to get a base Z06... it seems a base 2019 Z06 is $72,000 after discunts and then it jumps way up to low 80's for a 2lz....

I would jump on the 2017, it's already taken the depreciation hit. Not many changes from 2017 to 2019. However it is your $$$.

Chonger 10-24-2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by BMadden (Post 1598216747)
Not even a question, get the base Z06. There isn't a single option in the 2LZ or 3LZ packages that makes up for that extra 200hp. :thumbs:

This...……..!

andreas g. 10-24-2018 05:10 PM

I have a base 16Z m7 paid $86000 out the door. Have put $10000 in mods. AFE, kook LT, 2300 Magnuson, 5% pulley with ATI balancer, expansion tank, and tuned. Love the car. Every corvette I’ve had has been moded. It’s a beast. Before the Supercharger upgrade went 197 at the Mojave magnum mile. No regrets

saleen556 10-24-2018 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn (Post 1598216927)
The best bang for the buck car is the 2LZ. You get some options that make the car a little more comfortable when traveling. Since you aren't planning on tracking the car don't bother with the Comp Seats. Here are the things the 2LZ has the 1LZ doesn't have.
  • Lumbar/wing adjust - Really nice to have on long trips
  • Heated/vented seats - Also nice to have on long trips
  • 10-speaker Bose® premium audio - user dependent
  • Front Curb View Cameras - Really nice to have when pulling into parking spots. Can prevent costly damage to front of car. I usually end up parking 3 or 4 ft away from the curb since I can't see it when pulling into a spot.
  • Universal Home Remote
  • Auto-dimming mirrors
  • Memory Package
  • Enhanced Theft-Deterrent Package - Some people may think this is a detriment. Throw a piece of paper through an open window and the alarm goes off. If you have OnStar the car will send you an email saying the alarm was set off. Nice to have at something like Cars and Coffee. You can wander away from the car but it can call for help.
  • Luggage shade/cargo net

Bill

I agree that this is the sweet spot. I love my 2lz Z06. However I’d take a 1lz Z06 over any GS. No comparison especially on the street.

Mr. Gizmo 10-24-2018 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by TimCarlson (Post 1598216081)
Thanks fro the reply, no plans to track the car, it will remain stock, I have a 2008 Z06 now and would like to upgrade to a C7, but the options on these new vettes are quite pricy, Basically it will be a weekend and Corvette Club car.. seems GrandSports are a dime a dozen....A base Z06 may hold it's value better.. Truth always comes down to money, don't want to spend more than $71k. and than means a base Z06 or a GrandSport with options

get the z06. Coming from a c6z06 I felt after test driving the grand sport was limp being 50 hp less and a heavy weight compared to the c6z. Heck I think the c7z does not accelerate as well as my c6z did. Hindsight being 2020 I would have kept the c6z and not bought the c7z. But at the time I had the itch for something different and the net spread at the time to do the transaction was right.

You’ll miss the high revving ls7. Lt4 is a torque monster but peters out past 5k rpm. The lt4 is better suited for a pick up truck and a snow bird towing a fifth wheel then a sports car.

Z0HS1CK 10-24-2018 05:43 PM

Z06.

The GS is a waste of cash IMO, especially since they're very similar prices with a Z. If there was a 20k difference i would say GS but the price is almost identical. Makes no sense to ever consider a GS. Plus it's slow as hell.

Anything u like 10-24-2018 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by RobGZ06 (Post 1598217690)
Z06.

The GS is a waste of cash IMO, especially since they're very similar prices with a Z. If there was a 20k difference i would say GS but the price is almost identical. Makes no sense to ever consider a GS. Plus it's slow as hell.

Where can I find a Z for the same price as a GS? Equally optioned.

I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here. If you’re not gonna track the car, or street race, the 460 hp GS is plenty for the street. It’s tough keeping it hooked up. It’s nice to be able to SAY “my car has more HP than yours” but can it be used??? Personally I’d rather have a loaded GS than a stripped Z. Which is why I bought one. Has the look for less money and plenty of power. To each his own.

Z0HS1CK 10-24-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Anything u like (Post 1598217928)


Where can I find a Z for the same price as a GS? Equally optioned.

I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here. If you’re not gonna track the car, or street race, the 460 hp GS is plenty for the street. It’s tough keeping it hooked up. It’s nice to be able to SAY “my car has more HP than yours” but can it be used??? Personally I’d rather have a loaded GS than a stripped Z. Which is why I bought one. Has the look for less money and plenty of power. To each his own.

The thread title is base Z vs GS with options.

I'll use a 1LZ vs a 2LT GS.

2LT GS's go for what? 68-70? Whereas 3LT's go for 74-75K?

I got my 1LZ for 68.8, so we'll call it 69k. So that's about the same as a 2LT since the thread title said GS with options.

It makes zero sense to go with a GS for the same price as a z06. The argument about using the power on the street or if you're going to track the car is flawed. Because even track guys aren't using their vette as a dedicated track car. It's a street car with track events thrown in the mix.

460hp is a lot. 10 years ago. These days that's not enough. Even for the street. The idea of the power and torque is the excitement of getting up to speed in a faster time than a slower car.

I don't even have to downshift when i want to put bus lengths on cars when i want to pass them. Even without racing, i can punch it in 5th gear at 65mph and before you know it i look at the speedo and i'm doing well in the triple digits. Without downshifting.

It's not about going WOT in every gear where the z06 power might be too much. It's the immediate power and torque EVERYWHERE in the RPM, in any gear.

That's the difference. I've had a C6GS before. With full bolt ons. Made 430rwhp. It was slow.


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