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03BlkZ 11-16-2018 05:10 PM

Mid engine Viper?
 
Probably old news but looks like Dodge is going mid engine with the viper. If it true hopefully the C8 will fair well against it.

https://speedsociety.com/mid-engine-...e-all-thought/

Sub Driver 11-16-2018 05:26 PM

This was a story that came out back in May and actually FCA said it was false and there were no plans for the viper. I dont see why people make articles like this without even doing 2 mins of research. Hopefully it will come back though.

Yarbie 11-16-2018 07:12 PM

The Viper has been a huge money loser for Dodge, its toast.

KnightDriveTV 11-16-2018 07:32 PM

I'm going disagree that the Viper is toast. It just needs an opportunity of timing and investment. FCA has been in a position, that I agree...if it happens it'll likely be years from now. Considering FCA's connection to Ferrari though, I theorized the moment that it was announced the Viper was dying that this was going to be a death like the 4th gen Camaro. FCA has to get their footing, they have to re-establish direction and then you WILL see the Viper re-emerge, and I think it'll re-emerge with a big dose of Ferrari DNA similar to the Gallardo/R8/Huracan sharing.

keagan 11-16-2018 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by K.I.T.T. (Post 1598348619)
I'm going disagree that the Viper is toast. It just needs an opportunity of timing and investment. FCA has been in a position, that I agree...if it happens it'll likely be years from now. Considering FCA's connection to Ferrari though, I theorized the moment that it was announced the Viper was dying that this was going to be a death like the 4th gen Camaro. FCA has to get their footing, they have to re-establish direction and then you WILL see the Viper re-emerge, and I think it'll re-emerge with a big dose of Ferrari DNA similar to the Gallardo/R8/Huracan sharing.

While I do agree, how many re-do’s does FCA, Chrysler, Dodge, SRT, FIAT, Ram, whatever it is they are call needs to get the message? They just need to look at the Corvette to see why it’s still ticking.

1985 Corvette 11-17-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by keagan (Post 1598349003)


While I do agree, how many re-do’s does FCA, Chrysler, Dodge, SRT, FIAT, Ram, whatever it is they are call needs to get the message? They just need to look at the Corvette to see why it’s still ticking.

K.I.T.T. may have a point. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I strongly believe the Viper was a victim of its own marketing gimmicks. The bad attitude and in your face persona worked great in the 90s, but it did not transfer well into the new millennium. The moment Ralph Gilles said Randy Pobst was "afraid" of the Viper was the moment to me where I said, "Okay, there is a such thing as the car being too much of a bad ass for its own good." The cars just sat. For the prices they wanted for them, people in that pay band didn't want to be seen in a car with a reputation that the person driving it is over compensating.

If you parked a gen 2 GTS next to a C7, the GTS is going to get more attention all day. It's hard to argue any Corvette having the ability to command the initial attention a Viper can. The Corvette throughout the years has had enough styling to keep it exciting while they polished everything about the car. The Viper stuck to a formula so hard it just couldn't change because then it wouldn't be Viper. I miss the car but unless they make it a broader appealing car, it's more money down the drain for the company trying to make it. I think they should just keep the fork stuck in it at this point. It's beyond a remarkable car but it has pigeon holed itself so hard at this point.

hawkgfr 11-17-2018 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Yarbie (Post 1598348494)
The Viper has been a huge money loser for Dodge, its toast.

Bullshit....you sound like the typical fanboi that attributes sales with superiority.....it conquered everything it set out to do which was beat everything in sight..In fact the racing body had to legislate rules changes so others could win again. :lol:


Also you can track the showroom car for more than two laps and it won't go into limp mode...Oh and no orange peel and real painted stripes. ;)


Mustang guys are always yapping how it beats Camaro and Challenger in sales...The McDonalds cheeseburger has been the best selling burger of all time for decades....its a shitty hamburger....

NytmereZ 11-18-2018 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by hawkgfr (Post 1598353254)
Bullshit....you sound like the typical fanboi that attributes sales with superiority.....it conquered everything it set out to do which was beat everything in sight..In fact the racing body had to legislate it so others could win again. :lol:


Also you can track the showroom car for more than two laps and it won't go into limp mode...Oh and no orange peel and real painted stripes. ;)


Mustang guys are always yapping how it beats Camaro and Challenger in sales...The McDonalds cheeseburger has been the best selling g burger of all time for decades....its a shitty hamburger....

I couldn’t have said it better, LOL!

Lavender 11-19-2018 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by hawkgfr (Post 1598353254)
Bullshit....you sound like the typical fanboi that attributes sales with superiority.....it conquered everything it set out to do which was beat everything in sight..In fact the racing body had to legislate rules changes so others could win again. :lol:


Also you can track the showroom car for more than two laps and it won't go into limp mode...Oh and no orange peel and real painted stripes. ;)


Mustang guys are always yapping how it beats Camaro and Challenger in sales...The McDonalds cheeseburger has been the best selling burger of all time for decades....its a shitty hamburger....

Yeah and what happened to it? O yeah I forgot...couldnt sell worth a damn and got canceled.

hawkgfr 11-19-2018 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Lavender (Post 1598360255)
Yeah and what happened to it? O yeah I forgot...couldnt sell worth a damn and got canceled.

oooohhh big comeback dude...I'm crushed. :lol: Lemme guess you've had several Mustangs. :lol:


Mopar Jimmy 01-03-2019 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by NytmereZ (Post 1598354423)


I couldn’t have said it better, LOL!

:iagree: :smash: :cheers:

NytmereZ 01-03-2019 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mopar Jimmy (Post 1598611060)
:iagree: :smash: :cheers:

‘How is that V12 Viper Of yours doing ? :D




Mopar Jimmy 01-03-2019 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by NytmereZ (Post 1598614803)


‘How is that V12 Viper Of yours doing ? :D




:rofl: :rofl: :cheers:

JohnZ 01-22-2019 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Yarbie (Post 1598348494)
The Viper has been a huge money loser for Dodge, its toast.

I was the Viper Plant Manager from1995-2001, and I can assure you the Viper was NOT a huge money loser. That said, don't hold your breath waiting for it to be re-born. :thumbs:



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