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IvanoMan 12-01-2018 12:18 PM

GEN Light on
 
Hello
Just bring back my 1977 vette from the mechanic for breack check and now the GEN light ramain on after the engine is started.
I don't think is related to the job made on the break.
Any suggestion ?
Thanks

dar322 12-01-2018 12:27 PM

Low battery? Take it for a ride. How many amps is your alternator? Low amps could cause Gen lite to illuminate.

Rotonda 12-02-2018 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by IvanoMan (Post 1598425930)
Hello
Just bring back my 1977 vette from the mechanic for breack check and now the GEN light ramain on after the engine is started.
I don't think is related to the job made on the break.
Any suggestion ?
Thanks

Several things to look at:
1) What does your voltmeter read? If it is straight up, pointing at 13, and remains so as the engine continues to run, your alternator is supplying current to the system.
2) Look at your alternator. There should be an 18/20 gauge brown (or possibly white) wire attached to it. This wire goes back to the plug in back of your center gauge cluster, and then to the GEN light. It performs 2 functions - a) it excites the alternator when starting, and b) Warns you when the oltage at the alternator is less than the voltage in the battery. If it is disconnected, your GEN light will come on.

jb78L-82 12-02-2018 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Rotonda (Post 1598429999)
Several things to look at:
1) What does your voltmeter read? If it is straight up, pointing at 13, and remains so as the engine continues to run, your alternator is supplying current to the system.
2) Look at your alternator. There should be an 18/20 gauge brown (or possibly white) wire attached to it. This wire goes back to the plug in back of your center gauge cluster, and then to the GEN light. It performs 2 functions - a) it excites the alternator when starting, and b) Warns you when the oltage at the alternator is less than the voltage in the battery. If it is disconnected, your GEN light will come on.


This^^^^^^^

I doubt that the alternator just failed at the mechanic BUT it could. More likely the mechanic touched a wire ^^^^^^ causing the Gen light to illuminate

Doug1 12-02-2018 09:43 AM

This problem can be a real hassle. I've had it many times in the past, chasing different things. I eventually sent it in to a mechanic(which takes a lot for me), he put on a self exciting alternator, never had the problem again.

IvanoMan 12-02-2018 12:06 PM

Thanks for the suggestions ,
Just cheked and the cable are connected.
Double checked with hand unplug and plug again.
The red light is still there.
The volts gauge indicate 13V
mmmm.

IvanoMan 12-02-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Doug1 (Post 1598430530)
This problem can be a real hassle. I've had it many times in the past, chasing different things. I eventually sent it in to a mechanic(which takes a lot for me), he put on a self exciting alternator, never had the problem again.

Hi Doug,
Do you have a link to the self exciting alternator?
What does it mean self exciting?

Big2Bird 12-02-2018 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by IvanoMan (Post 1598431179)
Thanks for the suggestions ,
Just cheked and the cable are connected.
Double checked with hand unplug and plug again.
The red light is still there.
The volts gauge indicate 13V
mmmm.

Have it tested.

Big2Bird 12-02-2018 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Doug1 (Post 1598430530)
This problem can be a real hassle. I've had it many times in the past, chasing different things. I eventually sent it in to a mechanic(which takes a lot for me), he put on a self exciting alternator, never had the problem again.

Because a one wire alternator circumvents the light.
He didnt fix it, he bypassed it.

carriljc 12-02-2018 01:34 PM

I suspect that it is associated with the job on the brakes; not definitely, from my experience of messing with things. If your alternator is putting out 13 VDC then the is charging (assuming your battery terminal voltage when off is about 12 VDC). but it really should be maintaining closer to 14 VDC

What was he doing to the brakes? Perhaps we can narrow down the search area.

IvanoMan 12-02-2018 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by carriljc (Post 1598431587)
I suspect that it is associated with the job on the brakes; not definitely, from my experience of messing with things. If your alternator is putting out 13 VDC then it is charging (assuming your battery terminal voltage when off is about 12 VDC).

What was he doing to the brakes? Perhaps we can narrow down the search area.

He has revised the brake calipers

dmaxx3500 12-02-2018 03:05 PM

put a volt meter on the battery
1. sitting,key off

2.running at idle

3.running at fast idle 1500 rpm's

what are you getting for volts?

IvanoMan 12-02-2018 04:28 PM

Could be a fuse ?

Gunfighter13 12-04-2018 02:16 PM

The alternator should put out at least 14.2 volts not 13. Check it running across the battery. You can bypass the regulator to make it energize.

jb78L-82 12-04-2018 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter13 (Post 1598443310)
The alternator should put out at lest 14.2 volts not 13. Check it running across the battery. You can bypass the regulator to make it energize.

Generally 14.2-14.4 with no load except charging the battery.

No less than 13.8 volts generally under load.

A fully charged battery under no load could be as low as 13.2-13.4...........

Much depends on the alternator type, revs, load, etc........

There really is no set number...except it should be more than 13 volts generally....

Doug1 12-05-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by IvanoMan (Post 1598431556)
Hi Doug,
Do you have a link to the self exciting alternator?
What does it mean self exciting?

It means that it's putting out proper voltage as soon as it starts spinning without being told anything from dash. I can easily monitor if it is working with the voltmeter on dash. Never had the light come on and it always charges strong.

here's a link. Much better price than the one I just got for my 02 vette, it was $380 on amazon. C5 needs to have the internal circuitry to communicate with the PCM.

Doug1 12-05-2018 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by IvanoMan (Post 1598432343)
Could be a fuse ?

I believe so, it's been so long since I had this problem, like I said, it was just a huge PITA. It would also be intermittent. That self exciting alternator was the best thing I ever did.

Doug1 12-05-2018 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by carriljc (Post 1598431587)
I suspect that it is associated with the job on the brakes; not definitely, from my experience of messing with things. If your alternator is putting out 13 VDC then it is charging (assuming your battery terminal voltage when off is about 12 VDC).

What was he doing to the brakes? Perhaps we can narrow down the search area.

Total coincidence, doing the brakes shouldn't have anything to do with this problem. Like I said in a previous post, it was intermittent and drove me crazy. The electrical system on my car still drives me crazy, but not the gen light anymore, lol.

IvanoMan 12-05-2018 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Doug1 (Post 1598450018)
I believe so, it's been so long since I had this problem, like I said, it was just a huge PITA. It would also be intermittent. That self exciting alternator was the best thing I ever did.

Do you remebmer which fuse is ?

BlackC3vette 12-05-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by IvanoMan (Post 1598450111)
Do you remebmer which fuse is ?

Please check the voltage with the engine running at an idle. The standard is 1 volt over battery voltage. A fully charged battery is 12.6 volts, so your minimum voltage should be 13.6 volts.
Voltage is just part of the electrical output, the other measurement is amperage. The alternator could be putting out voltage but not sufficient amperage. If you do as previously suggested and have the unit tested at Autozone they will tell you if it's performing properly. After checking all of the wire connections, and broken wires, testing the alternator would be next on the list


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