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Crios 01-18-2019 04:04 PM

2005 Harmonic Balancer issue?
 
Hello everyone,

Edit: Better lighting video
This is a base-model ‘05 C6 Corvette. The car currently has 87k miles. I noticed that the car made a loud chirping sound when turned on. I checked the and notice that the pulley was wobbly. The noise sometimes goes away as I drive.
I use the vehicle only on the weekends & I do not push the engine hard.

I had the belt changed recently (July) as well as new pulleys, but I believe the previous mechanic made an error (Took him multiple tries to correct the issue). Initially, I thought the belt was worn (or the tension was off/bolt loose) but the belt is new and the noise continues to persist when lubricating the belt.

I’m starting to think it’s the harmonic balancer but would like to get your opinion.
Context: Garaged, Located in Los Angeles, the issue began when temp. became colder.

Thank you all for your time!

Fly N Low 01-18-2019 04:57 PM

I couldn't see the HB very well as lighting was bad however if it's wobbling it needs to be replaced. The noise u have sounds like it could be an idler pulley or belt tensioner pulley to me these pulleys are not that expensive so if it were my car I would do the HB and the idlers all at the same time.
My opinion on parts is they are usually less expensive then towing bills. Just my 2 cents.

chasboy 01-18-2019 05:11 PM

I’m having a similar problem on my C5. I removed the drive belt and no noise. I spun the tension idler and it seemed to be noisy. They are both cheap enough, so I’m going to replace both.

EVRose 01-18-2019 06:28 PM

That balancer is not wobbling at all. I'm betting its the upper tension pulley right in front of where you had the camera.

torquetube 01-18-2019 11:50 PM

Press the A/C compressor disable (snowflake) button and note how the sound changes.

buckmeister2 01-18-2019 11:56 PM

Honestly, I saw zero wobble in that video. I would replace both belts first. If it continues, I would have a local mechanic, not a Chevy dealer, look at it. If you take it to a dealer, I guarantee they will tell you it is bad....

HBsurfer 01-19-2019 12:35 AM

I just replaced my tensioners, idler pulleys and belts today.
Tensioners on Rock Auto was $69.99 each and the idler pulley's were $39.99

Easy DIY. Tensioners have two bolts each and the idler pulley's are one bolt.

irok 01-19-2019 07:48 AM

A little dark in hb area.looks like belt not riding in all ribs of balancer?

Crios 01-19-2019 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Fly N Low (Post 1598712602)
I couldn't see the HB very well as lighting was bad however if it's wobbling it needs to be replaced. The noise u have sounds like it could be an idler pulley or belt tensioner pulley to me these pulleys are not that expensive so if it were my car I would do the HB and the idlers all at the same time.
My opinion on parts is they are usually less expensive then towing bills. Just my 2 cents.

My apologies for the bad lighting, I hope this one has better lighting. I definitely agree, it would be waaayyy cheaper than towing. Thank you for your time & help!

05 Wreck 01-19-2019 03:40 PM

Get a cheap mechanics stethoscope, if it's the idler or other pulleys you'll know right away.:cheers:

Silver c6 z-51 01-19-2019 03:56 PM

I had a similar issue with my LS2 , first I replaced the belt tensioner with a Katech static adjustment to remove the spring-loaded factory one which did solve alot of the noise. I also used white nail polish to paint a line across the front of the balancer to let me know if it starts to separate.

Dave S 01-19-2019 04:17 PM

Your HB is fine (I've also got an '05). Rather than guess about noise from the pulleys, get an automotive stethoscope at any parts store (they're cheap) or use a length of garden hose to identify which pulley may be noisy instead of changing all.

K-Spaz 01-19-2019 04:25 PM

Well I tend to disagree with several folks here. I think that balance your is absolutely wobbling. It's not bad yet but I'm pretty sure it's not running true.

I do agree with the part about new pulleys and tensioners at the same time. As long as you're in there, unfortunately it's an expensive job so a hundred bucks ain't going to change much.

you also said in the first post about lubricating the belt. You absolutely do not want to lubricate the belt. If you mean belt dressing? okay. But the last thing you want on that belt is lube.

05 Wreck 01-19-2019 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by K-Spaz (Post 1598718868)
Well I tend to disagree with several folks here. I think that balance your is absolutely wobbling. It's not bad yet but I'm pretty sure it's not running true.

I do agree with the part about new pulleys and tensioners at the same time. As long as you're in there, unfortunately it's an expensive job so a hundred bucks ain't going to change much.

you also said in the first post about lubricating the belt. You absolutely do not want to lubricate the belt. If you mean belt dressing? okay. But the last thing you want on that belt is lube.

WD40 has been used for years to identify noisy belts. Wears off after a few revolutions.

chasboy 01-19-2019 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by 05 Wreck (Post 1598718602)
Get a cheap mechanics stethoscope, if it's the idler or other pulleys you'll know right away.:cheers:

I have a real “people’s stethoscope” I took off the probe and used the open tube to verify that the bulk of the noise was from the tensioner pulley.

linkedge540 01-19-2019 09:15 PM

The harmonic balancer doesn’t appear to have a wobble, I can tell you my 2007 had the HB wobble and it cost a grand to repair. The cost comes from 6 hours of labor as the rack has to be dropped and the sway bar. Fortunately I had a warranty that covered it.

Grzldvt1 01-20-2019 01:06 AM

What is the Vin# ?
The first 11,039 cars produced in 2005 were subject to a TSB involving the crank pulley bolt. What was pathetic is there was no recall just a TSB. If the balancer came off in the warranty period they would fix it, if it failed after the warranty period most dealers said "Thanks for playing, here is your bill"

05 Wreck 01-20-2019 08:56 AM

Thanks Obama!
 

Originally Posted by Grzldvt1 (Post 1598721707)
What is the Vin# ?
The first 11,039 cars produced in 2005 were subject to a TSB involving the crank pulley bolt. What was pathetic is there was no recall just a TSB. If the balancer came off in the warranty period they would fix it, if it failed after the warranty period most dealers said "Thanks for playing, here is your bill"

You have to remember, after GM's bankruptcy bailout in 09' they were not obligated to honor any maintenance related issue, TSB or otherwise. GM bond holders got bit in the ass the hardest.


Landru 01-20-2019 11:57 AM

Can't detect any wobble, whatsoever.
Betting a tensioner, IIRC bearings dry out, first sign's a racket.
Cheapest first, if belts are new replace tensioners & if noise persists then HB.

Smokeysvette 01-20-2019 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by 05 Wreck (Post 1598718988)
WD40 has been used for years to identify noisy belts. Wears off after a few revolutions.

:iagree:

I had the infamous wobble on my "05 and had to replace it but what I see in the OP posted video isn't wobbling


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