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VNAMVET 01-30-2019 09:32 PM

2019 Dodge Scat Pack Challenger
 
6.4 L, 485hp/475tq, 8 speed, 6 piston Brembos w/15.4" rotors

Anyone have insight on this fat, over weight, gas guzzling pig?
Would it be any good for a daily driver with fuel economy at 15 city, 23 hwy?

cerino2000 01-30-2019 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by VNAMVET (Post 1598790515)
6.4 L, 485hp/475tq, 8 speed, 6 piston Brembos w/15.4" rotors

Anyone have insight on this fat, over weight, gas guzzling pig?
Would it be any good for a daily driver with fuel economy at 15 city, 23 hwy?

miles of smiles. Beware...you may forget all about corvettes afterwards...25mpg with the auto too and comfortable too. I’ve owned a lot of challengers and a lot of Corvettes. Challengers are a blast.

oemtech 01-30-2019 11:39 PM

I have a 17 Charger Scat Pack after owning 10 Challenger 6 sp. It sits next to my 08 LS3.

The Scat has all the features you could ask for. Mine does not have, by choice, a sunroof, lane departure, or adaptive cruise control. But, mine has the Hellcat Wheels and brake package. Sumbitch runs like stink. All for under 40k.

oemtech 01-31-2019 12:49 PM

This long-winded and may offend some Corvette folks.

You can call up the Performance Pages via Uconnect from the steering wheel buttons.
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I added the 3 aux button pkg from Z Auto and remapped them to what I wanted.
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SlothX311 02-11-2019 02:15 PM

I don't understand the appeal of a heavy horribly handling monstrosity (Challenger & Charger). I guess drag racing maybe? Idk. Don't get it.

oemtech 02-11-2019 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by SlothX311 (Post 1598859376)
I don't understand the appeal of a heavy horribly handling monstrosity (Challenger & Charger). I guess drag racing maybe? Idk. Don't get it.

Agreed they are heavy and don't handle very good in stock trim. But, have you ever driven either for any length of time?

I had a 10 Challenger and currently have a 17 Charger. I believe that both chassis are some form of the Mercedes design. My Challenger handled pretty good after I installed coil overs, adjustable A-frames, adjustable rear camber bushings, and front/rear strut bars.

If you compare feature of my 17 Scat Pack to a 17 Corvette I have all the features for about 50 to 70k less and that makes the weight and handling issues acceptible. Beside I have a 08 LS3 3LT Coupe sitting in the stall next to the Scat.

VNAMVET 02-11-2019 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by SlothX311 (Post 1598859376)
I don't understand the appeal of a heavy horribly handling monstrosity (Challenger & Charger). I guess drag racing maybe? Idk. Don't get it.

My daily driver in Maine....a 4 - speed, 1966 442. Back in 1966 btw!
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SlothX311 02-11-2019 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by oemtech (Post 1598859708)
Agreed they are heavy and don't handle very good in stock trim. But, have you ever driven either for any length of time?

I had a 10 Challenger and currently have a 17 Charger. I believe that both chassis are some form of the Mercedes design. My Challenger handled pretty good after I installed coil overs, adjustable A-frames, adjustable rear camber bushings, and front/rear strut bars.

If you compare feature of my 17 Scat Pack to a 17 Corvette I have all the features for about 50 to 70k less and that makes the weight and handling issues acceptible. Beside I have a 08 LS3 3LT Coupe sitting in the stall next to the Scat.

The weight is what kills it for me. Not interested in street racing or drag racing so for me the added weight = slower lap times. No way around it. I get why they sell though.

FAUEE 02-11-2019 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by SlothX311 (Post 1598860118)
The weight is what kills it for me. Not interested in street racing or drag racing so for me the added weight = slower lap times. No way around it. I get why they sell though.

Most people dont run laps in them. If you're looking for a daily, the extra weight pays dividends in comfort. The challenger is a MUCH better road car than the camaro or mustang.

I would have one and do burnouts like crazy. The T/A handles pretty damn good too.

BlackHellcat 02-12-2019 05:19 PM

You know it's a pig when you hammer it. I opted for the Hellcat

VNAMVET 02-12-2019 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by BlackHellcat (Post 1598867343)
You know it's a pig when you hammer it. I opted for the Hellcat

If I could afford it, a Hellcat would be I'm my drive, rather than a 6.4 Scat Pack. Enjoy.

capevettes 02-13-2019 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by SlothX311 (Post 1598859376)
I don't understand the appeal of a heavy horribly handling monstrosity (Challenger & Charger). I guess drag racing maybe? Idk. Don't get it.

I just ordered a Challenger R/T Blackhead Edition for my wife yesterday. Base Hemi, automatic. I have enough, fast, impractical cars. This will be her daily and our travel car.

The appeal for me is it's the best looking retro, performance car of the 3 (Challenger, Camaro, Mustang). It's the only one with any luggage space, that can actually accept passengers in the rear. Yes, it's heavy but it's actually fuel efficient on the highway with the 8 speed auto and cylinder deactivation. Not as fast as the 6.2 Hemi or the Hellcats and Demons, but it will suit our purposes perfectly and at a reasonable price point.

Jims66 02-13-2019 07:35 AM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...c5bb02decf.jpg
I have a daily driver R/T with the 5.7L Hemi and 6-speed manual transmission along with the Super Track Pack option. It's also loaded with a bunch of creature comfort options...... I Love that car.

slvrY2K 02-13-2019 07:43 AM

How about a Chevrolet SS? I bought a 2017 a few months ago. You can find one with an M6 if you want.
LS3, dual mode exhaust, MRC suspension (handles incredibly well), values are holding steady. I believe it is a tick slower than the Scat Pack stock for stock.
It's a bit of a sleeper, rare, and no longer made. Most don't recognize anything special about it, but I can't stop and wash it without being hammered with questions and oohs and ahhs!
Ron
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slvrY2K 02-13-2019 07:44 AM

Seeing the pic above mine, I realize you said Challenger, not Charger.. you're probably not looking for a 4 door. Good Luck!

ZEN357 02-13-2019 07:51 AM

I own a 2016 Challenger with the 5.7 Liter, 6-Speed, 3.90's in the rear. I love the car, more than the 2001 Mustang Bullitt I used to own. The Challenger is my baby and is only driven on nice days and stored in the winter. It only get about 18 to 20 mpg so the 6.4 Liter is going to use more gas. With the 8 speed automatic though it may be okay as a daily driver, but with that big of an engine you are going to be lucky to get anything over 22 mpg on the highway.

VNAMVET 02-15-2019 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jims66 (Post 1598869950)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...c5bb02decf.jpg
I have a daily driver R/T with the 5.7L Hemi and 6-speed manual transmission along with the Super Track Pack option. It's also loaded with a bunch of creature comfort options...... I Love that car.

Do you find it too big? I know of the blind spot at the C pillars which causes concern. I'm not worried about mileage as my C7 only averages 21 or so and that's hardly getting on it. It runs in V8 mode always.
That red really pops. I feel that its going to be quite a change from the C7 cabin!
It's like going backwards in time, as the cabin looks like your living room whereas the C7 looks like a jet fighter cockpit. I'll miss that.

hawkgfr 02-15-2019 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by VNAMVET (Post 1598790515)
6.4 L, 485hp/475tq, 8 speed, 6 piston Brembos w/15.4" rotors

Anyone have insight on this fat, over weight, gas guzzling pig?
Would it be any good for a daily driver with fuel economy at 15 city, 23 hwy?




I've had three and love them all...My last is a 2016 scatpack shaker...They handle plenty well for a boulevard cruiser. They are big but corner extremely flat and easy to control with the go pedal. 392 is awesome. View is fine....Rarely does the fat b pillar bother you...uconnect is the best out there. My car runs 0-60 in 4.3 all day long granny starting by dumping the clutch at 1400 rpms and its a stick... My a8 Stingray ran 4.0 same stretch many times. Not a big difference for that 1000 pounds lol...

They are very nice fun cars...Oh, rural, small town mpg 21 all day long and on a trip 24. Hard to get less than 17.. Even though its fat, the gearing, 392 power and the tranny ratio of the z51 corvette manuals and 3:90 gearing and set-up makes for lots of fun oh shit grins on the street.

Donuts 02-16-2019 04:06 PM

'16 hellcat challenger owner here and I love the car and would love the 392 SP or full SRT as well. It's a roomy and comfortable car. It looks great and sounds even better. It just has character that chevy's just don't have. Big back seat , I can stand in the back floor board and buckle my son into his baby seat... I'm 6'2" 250 lbs ..

malexand123 02-16-2019 04:32 PM

‘17 Challenger Hellcat owner here.

> drives daily
> awesome retro look honoring the ‘70 model
> super comfortable
> facking fast - seriously it is
> I DO track it
> yes it feels heavy on the track... but still, it handles way better than expected for a 4500 pound car
> took president of our local Porsche club as a passenger for a session around Hallett - his comment was "I think this has less body roll than my car [Porsche 911]"


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