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zr_kaizen 02-01-2019 03:22 PM

C&D doubles down on C8 info
 
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...dition-europe/

“While there may be a gap between C7 and C8 models in Europe, that's not the case for America. We have it on good authority that there will be some overlap between production of the C7 and C8 Corvettes for the first year or two of the mid-engined C8 car's run, with the high-performance Z06 and ZR1 C7 modelscontinuing on as Chevrolet builds out the C8 lineup beyond the base car, which will launch first.”

Foosh 02-01-2019 04:21 PM

Thanks for posting this. C&D Intel reports on new models over the years have been as hit and miss as any other journalistic outlet. However, I could see a short overlap period involving the higher-end C7 models as they may be able to exercise options to do short-term extensions of contracts with C7 suppliers at previously agreed upon prices.

If they are right, it certainly debunks the theory advanced by some frequent posters here that a refreshed C7 will serve the low-cost market, whereas the ME will only be high-end.

C7Me 02-01-2019 04:32 PM

If this is true then the first C8 ME's will be at the entry level price point, about $65K, when it comes out while the Z06 and ZR1 fill the higher price/performance gap for a couple of years.

Dominic Sorresso 02-01-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by zr_kaizen (Post 1598801667)
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...dition-europe/

“While there may be a gap between C7 and C8 models in Europe, that's not the case for America. We have it on good authority that there will be some overlap between production of the C7 and C8 Corvettes for the first year or two of the mid-engined C8 car's run, with the high-performance Z06 and ZR1 C7 modelscontinuing on as Chevrolet builds out the C8 lineup beyond the base car, which will launch first.”

GM taking advantage of the FE die-hards to get their last licks, but oh ur gonna pay for that. I get it.

Tom73 02-01-2019 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by C7Me (Post 1598802057)
If this is true then the first C8 ME's will be at the entry level price point, about $65K, when it comes out while the Z06 and ZR1 fill the higher price/performance gap for a couple of years.

In my world the first year C8 will be a base model with a NA LT1 variant. In year 2 or 3 they will introduce a Z06 with a 4.4 TT DOHC engine. Then in year 3 or 4 we will see a ZR1 with a 5.5L TT DOHC engine. The base engine for the full run of the C8 will be the LT1 variant. In years 5 or 6 we will get the C9 that will implement every thing Chevy learned from the C8 production.

C7nut 02-01-2019 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Tom73 (Post 1598803029)

In my world the first year C8 will be a base model with a NA LT1 variant. In year 2 or 3 they will introduce a Z06 with a 4.4 TT DOHC engine. Then in year 3 or 4 we will see a ZR1 with a 5.5L TT DOHC engine. The base engine for the full run of the C8 will be the LT1 variant. In years 5 or 6 we will get the C9 that will implement every thing Chevy learned from the C8 production.

Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....

Tom73 02-01-2019 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by C7nut (Post 1598803415)
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....

Not in my world view.

smithers 02-01-2019 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by C7nut (Post 1598803415)
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....

Nah, not that soon. The only all electric car GM has made so far is the Bolt (lol). They are far far away from building some all electric supercar-ish vehicle.

range96 02-01-2019 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by Foosh (Post 1598802006)
Thanks for posting this. C&D Intel reports on new models over the years have been as hit and miss as any other journalistic outlet. However, I could see a short overlap period involving the higher-end C7 models as they may be able to exercise options to do short-term extensions of contracts with C7 suppliers at previously agreed upon prices.

If they are right, it certainly debunks the theory advanced by some frequent posters here that a refreshed C7 will serve the low-cost market, whereas the ME will only be high-end.

I noticed you turned down your tone a bit. You called this "crazy theories", "ignorant", "naive" before. If C&D's claim turns out to be true you might as well crawl under a rock somewhere. :)

roadbike56 02-01-2019 10:29 PM

If true, then this blows the high entry price for the ME into the weeds.
I wonder where the "I have a contact who said" crowd is? You can almost hear a pin drop.
Also puts a big pin in the "No more C7" camp's balloon. :lolg:

spireland 02-01-2019 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Tom73 (Post 1598803491)

Not in my world view.

Yeah, who would want all that instant torque. Ugh, I hate going fast.

VETTE-NV 02-01-2019 11:18 PM

I would take whatever C&D says with a grain of salt. In the past, they've often been as accurate as ZERV02. Not saying they are wrong now, but they want clicks too. It's all speculation until GM speaks....nothing more.

dreamr616 02-02-2019 11:13 AM

“We have it on good authority”.

That pretty much says it all about C&D and their reporting. Never seen them get ANYTHING right regards future models. Typical clickbait for them.

Zjoe6 02-02-2019 11:21 AM

Never trust the media, even if what they say makes you happy.

jefnvk 02-02-2019 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Dominic Sorresso (Post 1598802900)
GM taking advantage of the FE die-hards to get their last licks, but oh ur gonna pay for that. I get it.

More like, IF true, keeping a performance model on duty while the performance C8 line is sorted out.

If there are so many people clamoring to keep a FE Corvette, why wouldn't they just buy one now, instead of waiting a few years for the same thing?

mschuyler 02-02-2019 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by C7nut (Post 1598803415)
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....

IMO the vastly different engineering needed means the Lectric Vette will debut with the C9. They'll have to engineer a completely new car for that, which will take awhile.


ojm 02-02-2019 08:39 PM

Not sure really understand? does the article say there will be a 2020 model C7?

RPMaddiction 02-02-2019 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Tom73 (Post 1598803029)

In my world the first year C8 will be a base model with a NA LT1 variant. In year 2 or 3 they will introduce a Z06 with a 4.4 TT DOHC engine. Then in year 3 or 4 we will see a ZR1 with a 5.5L TT DOHC engine. The base engine for the full run of the C8 will be the LT1 variant. In years 5 or 6 we will get the C9 that will implement every thing Chevy learned from the C8 production.

Absolutely no way will the C8 see only a 5 year lifecycle. Try doubling that and then add a few more. The whole platform will be a decade in chasing black ink from the development investment.

Tom73 02-02-2019 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by RPMaddiction (Post 1598808536)


Absolutely no way will the C8 see only a 5 year lifecycle. Try doubling that and then add a few more. The whole platform will be a decade in chasing black ink from the development investment.

Being their first major ME project there will be mistakes. A 6 year life cycle, same as the C7, will give Chevy a chance to engineer out any problems that have been identified in the C8.

Tom73 02-02-2019 09:18 PM

Maybe a C8.5.


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