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Badaxident 02-08-2019 08:26 PM

key won't come out of ignition
 
C-4 Automatic. Shifter's button doesn't pop up when in Park so I can't get the ignition key out. Button pops up in all other gears. Any suggestions?

65Z01 02-09-2019 09:12 AM

What year, what tranny??

markKlein 02-09-2019 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Badaxident (Post 1598844420)
C-4 Automatic. Shifter's button doesn't pop up when in Park so I can't get the ignition key out. Button pops up in all other gears. Any suggestions?

Have you removed the brake-safety solenoid under the shifter cover? That can fail and stop the button from depressing, wonder if it somehow could be stopping it from popping out. Just a guess.

Joe C 02-09-2019 10:55 AM

I couldn't get the key out of my 85 (automatic transmission). turned out to be a faulty steering column, key lock cylinder.

novaks47 02-09-2019 01:57 PM

Rough up the shifter a bit when it's in park, and see if the bottom pops up. If not, you may be able to fiddle with the button itself by gently prying all around it with a small flat blade screwdriver. Be careful though, don't force it. The button in my '96 likes to stick every now and then, and all it usually takes is some light presses on it or rocking the shifter back and forth in park(there's a small amount of play in it) to get it to pop.

Gunho 02-10-2019 04:09 AM

I’d remove the top shifter cover and see if anything is blocking the shifter from moving the knob up. Maybe loose change? If all looks well it could be shifter cable linkage adjustment either up top, or on the transmission. Sounds like your shifter might not be getting all the way into park.

Badaxident 02-11-2019 02:22 AM

Thank you all for your support. The button is not stuck down. It will pop up easily when pulled out of park. I have tried roughing it into park to no avail. Seems I'll have to take it apart and look for a foreign object lodged in the ratcheting track. Seems like the most logical solution.

Joe C 02-11-2019 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Badaxident (Post 1598856522)
Thank you all for your support. The button is not stuck down. It will pop up easily when pulled out of park. I have tried roughing it into park to no avail. Seems I'll have to take it apart and look for a foreign object lodged in the ratcheting track. Seems like the most logical solution.

quick question - can you turn the key in the cylinder lock through all it's positions - accessory, off, run, start, or is it stuck in one position? second guessing here, but personally, I wouldn't think it's so much in the shifter mechanism/cable adjustment, as the key lock cylinder itself. I recently experienced the stuck key thing, and could not find any issues under the console. if it does turn out to be the steering column, lock cylinder, it was an easy fix, at least on an early, non air bag, C4. from all the videos on youtube, stuck keys and worn out lock cylinders seem to be an "old age" problem across many GM lines using the basic, same, column lock deign. one minute, everything was fine, next minute, stuck key. i backed the 85 out of the garage, and could not shut the car down - key stuck, and the car stuck in "run." had to kill 12V at the distributor. did much of the same things suggested - rough the shifter into park, ran it back and forth thru the gear indents, etc.. the key wouldn't budge. ac delco key lock cylinders for C4's are still available. BTW, what year? :rock:

Badaxident 02-11-2019 12:33 PM

The car is a '91. I have seen some of the videos you mention but they don't seem to match my problem. The key does go through the other functions just fine.. on off start etc. just doesn't quite go all the way off.. sort of like on "newer" cars where you have to flip a little lever on the ignition before removing the key. The trans is an automatic. Shouldn't the button on the shifter pop up when I put it in park? It doesn't.

Joe C 02-11-2019 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Badaxident (Post 1598858711)
The car is a '91. I have seen some of the videos you mention but they don't seem to match my problem. The key does go through the other functions just fine.. on off start etc. just doesn't quite go all the way off.. sort of like on "newer" cars where you have to flip a little lever on the ignition before removing the key. The trans is an automatic. Shouldn't the button on the shifter pop up when I put it in park? It doesn't.

can't speak for the 1991 model year, but my 85's button is in the "up" position at all times. I seem to recall that both my 90's and my 96 were the same - button is spring loaded up, 100% of the time. sorry, not sure what your problem could be at this point. anyway, good luck with the repair - :thumbs:

RIC96 02-11-2019 01:34 PM

So it sounds like the car starts and runs ok, you can drive the car but can't get the trans fully into park. The ignition switch won't go into the lock position unless the trans is in park. May have a transmission problem, hopefully not the parking pawl because the entire trans has to come out to get at that.

ghoastrider1 02-11-2019 02:19 PM

stupid question here but have you tried turning the wheel back and forth as you try to pull the key out?

FostersPerformance 02-11-2019 04:45 PM

Not sure if its the same as 88, but there is a cable that runs from the shifter to the steering column, left side. If the cable came off the key will not come out and do what you described. Either cable came off shifter, broke, or has too much play. Id take cable off shifter and push it in and see if key comes out. The steering column cover would have to come off to access..Good luck!

vette196 02-11-2019 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by ghoastrider1 (Post 1598859410)
stupid question here but have you tried turning the wheel back and forth as you try to pull the key out?

I 2nd that....

Badaxident 02-11-2019 11:55 PM

I don't think it's quite that dire.

Badaxident 02-11-2019 11:57 PM

No, I haven't tried that yet. The steering wheel is not locked in park.

Badaxident 02-12-2019 12:00 AM

As soon as the weather breaks, I will try this. Pretty cold now and the car is in my friend's garage. I agree that I think I will have to take the console apart to see what's up.

Badaxident 02-12-2019 12:00 AM

I will try that first thing.

RIC96 02-12-2019 10:55 AM

Will the car crank and start when you have it in park?

Badaxident 02-12-2019 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by RIC96 (Post 1598864606)
Will the car crank and start when you have it in park?

Yes. It does everything right except twist that last 1/8th inch to remove the key. That and the shift button does not pop up in park. But it will start in that position.


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