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Cavu2u 02-10-2019 08:58 PM

Body Mount Question
 
About to replace the body mounts, as I've always heard a "rumbling" coming from the rear, seemingly just outside and down from the rear interior baggage area. I suppose the Differential Cross Member/Hanger bushings could also be making the noise, but want to replace the Body Bushings anyway.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...551ad80311.jpg
Do those shims look "normal" for a 45 year-old Vette?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2417608d2f.jpg
Right side shims appear in much better shape.
AAMOF, I'm surprised the rubber's condition looks as good as it does. Probably shows the difference of a car spending all it's life in a relatively dry climate and another that doesn't.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...dc1f404c85.jpg

There's a little rust creepin' in there. I hope i caught it in time.

But my question again; Are shifting shims normal, like in the first photo?

Thanks.
Steve

cardo0 02-10-2019 11:04 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...9a7117f678.jpg
Rear passenger body mount. Welded corner on caged nut.
Your rear body bushings look very good for their age. Mine were crumbling off. I think you will find those bushing look much better on the inside which is protected from the elements. Your bushings look so good I don't think I would replace them. And since I have mine out right now I want to replace mine with poly mounts on the #1 and #4 mount while keeping rubber on the #2 and #3 mounts. You said you want to replace your mounts. All of them or just the rear mounts? If the body is lifted high enough I would weld up the corners of the capture nuts cage while you can access them. I have a pix of one but not a very good pic.

As for the cross member bushings failing - forget it. They are very well protected and very difficult to remove. I replaced mine but needed a shop to get them out and they even complained. And what cam out had nothing wrong with them. It kinda defies our imagination of a nearly 50 year old part can survive but you will be disappointed if do remove them.

Those shims probably not shifting but were installed that way.

caskiguy 02-10-2019 11:12 PM

After stripping my 70' to the bone to rebuild it and judging by "how things were done on the line" I'd bet the shims pictured have been that way sine day one, no harm.:flag:

croaker 02-11-2019 01:46 AM

Those mounts look pretty darn good.

Easy Mike 02-11-2019 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by croaker (Post 1598856497)
...Those mounts look pretty darn good...

Yep, and do not need to be replaced. The AIM shows the shims and how they were to be placed.
:thumbs:

Cavu2u 02-11-2019 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by cardo0 (Post 1598856178)
You said you want to replace your mounts. All of them or just the rear mounts?
All of them.

As for the cross member bushings failing - forget it. They are very well protected and very difficult to remove.
From some of the posts I've read, I've gotten that picture. :yesnod:
But what in hell is makin that noise? :toetap: Sounds like a hollow rumble, associated with road vibration while driving. Annoying. Driving me nuts. Sure sounds like a dampener mount back there somewhere gone bad to me.

Those shims probably not shifting but were installed that way.
Seems odd the factory line work would be that sloppy, but perhaps they were, and in other steps of assembly too. :)

Thanks much.
Steve

Cavu2u 02-11-2019 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by croaker (Post 1598856497)
Those mounts look pretty darn good.

70K miles and 45 years in a SoCal climate later, I do feel fortunate. But that noise! :willy:

Thanks.
Steve

Cavu2u 02-11-2019 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Easy Mike (Post 1598856762)
Yep, and do not need to be replaced.
:thumbs:

It does seem foolish huh. But I'm just trying to eliminate that possibility of causing the rumbling noise.
What else could it be? Wish I could accurately record it and let you folks diagnose.

Thanks.
Steve

caskiguy 02-11-2019 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cavu2u (Post 1598856981)
It does seem foolish huh. But I'm just trying to eliminate that possibility of causing the rumbling noise.
What else could it be? Wish I could accurately record it and let you folks diagnose.

Thanks.
Steve

The front differential mount ?
https://warptown.com/project-corvett...t-replacement/
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...270b5d16fb.jpg
Differential mount

Cavu2u 02-11-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by caskiguy (Post 1598857047)

Thanks. Will take a closer look at it.
I've eliminated the spare tire/carrier unit and exhaust routing as a possible noise source.
:shrug:

Steve

CA-Legal-Vette 02-11-2019 09:01 AM

Diff mount is possible. Does it clunk when you put it in reverse?

Could also be trailing arm bushings. These cars invent new ways to make noises every day.

Cavu2u 02-11-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by CA-Legal-Vette (Post 1598857209)
Diff mount is possible. Does it clunk when you put it in reverse?
Slightly. Noise seems to emanate from the rear left side.

Could also be trailing arm bushings.
I've not looked into this possibility. Thanks.

These cars invent new ways to make noises every day.
Indeed. :)

Steve

ignatz 02-12-2019 11:36 AM

The differential has enough oil, right?

Wheel bearings can also make that kind of noise. Check for heating at each of your wheels.

Cavu2u 02-12-2019 05:53 PM

I haven't checked the level lately, but I will now.
Thanks for the idea.

Steve


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