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CaddyJimz06 03-07-2019 07:27 PM

Pictures of paint defects
 
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CaddyJimz06 03-07-2019 07:31 PM

This is a follow-up to an earlier thread regarding paint defects I have noticed on my car that I picked up new from the Corvette Museum.

The hood defect can be seen in the first photo. It almost appears like a "V" shape in the paint. There's another hood paint defect near the end by the windshield. Appears like a raised ridge.

The rear bumper defect is to the left of the emblem and it looks like a ripple or dent in the paint. It's probably the most obvious one when seen in person.

These dimples or ripples in the paint are noticeable at certain angles and lighting. They almost appear like dents but the surface feels smooth. Only the one on the hood feels ever so slightly raised. I am wondering if it is some type of clearcoat defect.

I am against the idea of having the dealership repaint the panels since the car is brand new. Perhaps I should just accept them as is? It makes me feel kind of sad that these paint blemishes exist, especially on a $150k car that I worked hard for.

What would you guys do? Also, can anyone with expertise on paint or bodywork explain what these blemishes are and what caused them?

HTXSkydiver 03-07-2019 07:32 PM

I don't see a single defect in any of these pictures... No explanation either... Can you point them out with an arrow or at least describe what you are seeing?

EDIT: Sorry, looks like you were writing your explanation in a separate post as I was writing my reply

CaddyJimz06 03-07-2019 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by HTXSkydiver (Post 1599006775)
I don't see a single defect in any of these pictures... No explanation either... Can you point them out with an arrow or at least describe what you are seeing?

Sorry. Just edited my post with descriptions.

HTXSkydiver 03-07-2019 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by CaddyJimz06 (Post 1599006770)
This is a follow-up to an earlier thread regarding paint defects I have noticed on my car that I picked up new from the Corvette Museum.

The hood defect can be seen in the first photo. It almost appears like a "V" shape in the paint. There's another hood paint defect near the end by the windshield. Appears like a raised ridge.

The rear bumper defect is to the left of the emblem and it looks like a ripple or dent in the paint. It's probably the most obvious one when seen in person.

These dimples or ripples in the paint are noticeable at certain angles and lighting. They almost appear like dents but the surface feels smooth. Only the one on the hood feels ever so slightly raised. I am wondering if it is some type of clearcoat defect.

I am against the idea of having the dealership repaint the panels since the car is brand new. Perhaps I should just accept them as is? It makes me feel kind of sad that these paint blemishes exist, especially on a $150k car that I worked hard for.

What would you guys do? Also, can anyone with expertise on paint or bodywork explain what these blemishes are and what caused them?

They look extremely minor to me and I'm VERY particular about my cars. I highly doubt anyone other than you notices them. I've long given up expecting things like this to be flawless however I know how disappointing it is fo be unsatisfied with a car you worked hard to get and were/are excited about. I would say what you are seeing is normal, after-all It's a Chevy, not a Bugatti... Just be happy your panels all match unlike some of the guys with major paint issues.

UnhandledException 03-07-2019 11:06 PM

There is nothing you can do.

blackvetterzo6 03-08-2019 06:56 AM

The rear emblem paint defect is a joke, no way, have them respray that shit, that’s horrible, 150k��
Fuck that

warren s 03-08-2019 07:19 AM

I would have them repaint those panels, and keep at it until they are acceptable.
You already took delivery, so its your only option. If you choose to accept it you will always be pissed off by it.
I wouldn’t accept that on a low priced daily driver and certainly not on a ZR1.


449er 03-08-2019 07:28 AM

The 1st picture of the blemishes below the zr1 emblem are distracting to me, what does the dealer have to say?

SilveradoSS500 03-08-2019 08:13 AM

My car is just as bad, if not much worse! I haven’t driven it in 3 weeks...just pisses me off and I might dump it for an AMG GTR or R8.

Nesch18 03-08-2019 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by SilveradoSS500 (Post 1599008952)
My car is just as bad, if not much worse! I haven’t driven it in 3 weeks...just pisses me off and I might dump it for an AMG GTR or R8.

The AMG GT has it too. Bumper has a little different shade than the fenders because of different materials.

SilveradoSS500 03-08-2019 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Nesch18 (Post 1599009042)
The AMG GT has it too. Bumper has a little different shade than the fenders because of different materials.

I’ll be with a 2018 and 2019 AMG-GTR next weekend, both black. I’ll inspect them...and yes the drying process is different for both materials but in the ZR1s case, the hood/roof/rear spoiler are painted somewhere else and with a differnet paint than the factory’s mixture.

2019 ZR1 03-08-2019 03:23 PM

I have to say I'd be pissed .. Mine went from the dealer to the shop that is doing the Xpel and ceramic coating and they went all over the car. They said there was one spot that looked like someone scratched it and filled it in with touch up paint. They were able to fix it with no problem so I'm not even going to tell my dealer about it. I'd have a hard time letting a dealer paint my new car. Good luck man!!

ROBWILKER 03-08-2019 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by CaddyJimz06 (Post 1599006770)
This is a follow-up to an earlier thread regarding paint defects I have noticed on my car that I picked up new from the Corvette Museum.

The hood defect can be seen in the first photo. It almost appears like a "V" shape in the paint. There's another hood paint defect near the end by the windshield. Appears like a raised ridge.

The rear bumper defect is to the left of the emblem and it looks like a ripple or dent in the paint. It's probably the most obvious one when seen in person.

These dimples or ripples in the paint are noticeable at certain angles and lighting. They almost appear like dents but the surface feels smooth. Only the one on the hood feels ever so slightly raised. I am wondering if it is some type of clearcoat defect.

I am against the idea of having the dealership repaint the panels since the car is brand new. Perhaps I should just accept them as is? It makes me feel kind of sad that these paint blemishes exist, especially on a $150k car that I worked hard for.

What would you guys do? Also, can anyone with expertise on paint or bodywork explain what these blemishes are and what caused them?

Well, I can see them. I know they are difficult to photograph, especially the clear coat defects. I know, mine were very difficult to photo. GM wants you to have the attitude of acceptance for this inferior paint work. I would forget pursuiing this matter on the forum here. It seems the membership is replete with skeptics and persons who do not have a lot of positive or helpful things to say. Some of the comments have been downright hateful. A sign of the times I guess. You should document a case number with Chevy Customer Service, record the case number and handle all service visits and other correspondence in writing including case number. Start a written diary of dates, times, issue and persons contacted and their response or lack of response. IMO you are just asking for disappointment airing the problems here. There have been a few helpful exceptions here but I feel your best course of action would be to direct your efforts through the dealership service people at the delivering dealer or elsewhere.

UnhandledException 03-08-2019 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by ROBWILKER (Post 1599011869)
Well, I can see them. I know they are difficult to photograph, especially the clear coat defects. I know, mine were very difficult to photo. GM wants you to have the attitude of acceptance for this inferior paint work. I would forget pursuiing this matter on the forum here. It seems the membership is replete with skeptics and persons who do not have a lot of positive or helpful things to say. Some of the comments have been downright hateful. A sign of the times I guess. You should document a case number with Chevy Customer Service, record the case number and handle all service visits and other correspondence in writing including case number. Start a written diary of dates, times, issue and persons contacted and their response or lack of response. IMO you are just asking for disappointment airing the problems here. There have been a few helpful exceptions here but I feel your best course of action would be to direct your efforts through the dealership service people at the delivering dealer or elsewhere.

I have spent 60+ days with customer service, selling dealer, local dealers.

The best way to explain the ownership experience:

- Customer service : similar to dealing with walmart
- Appearance of the car visually : Its like IKEA furniture. Looks amazing from pictures or from a distance but up close its not. It doesnt feel premium.
- Driving of the car : Amazing. Power. Sheer torque. Handling. Out of this world.

It is such a pitty that such an amazing piece of machinery has this extremely shitty experience associated with it.

Customer service is more like the Apple genius bar. They are there to “guide” you, they have no authority over the dealer and they have no power in corporate GM. Their job is to ask for your zip code, find a dealer, call the dealer on your behalf (and even make a mess of things more when they call on your behalf and explain half of the issues wrong).

The dealers dont respond to emails. They dont respond to voicemails. They dont even answer the phone.

The biggest issue in this is the region you reside. If you are in a state like NY or NJ where the cost of living is 2-3x of say Ohio or FL, the problem is people working at these dealers are making fraction of their counterparts in Audi or BMW or Porsche who literally rule the market here. Very few chevys here and lots of euro cars. As a result, the treatment you get from chevy dealers are just atrocious. I m sure if I lived in Austin TX or Orlando FL or Tulsa OK, I would have a much better experience because people working on these cars and dealership staff probably do give a shit whereas people I have met are so fed up, so unhappy with their job that they have no incentive to help.

TARANTULA 03-08-2019 07:28 PM

Punky in 3. 2. 1.

2019 ZR1 03-08-2019 09:43 PM

:rofl:

Originally Posted by TARANTULA (Post 1599013142)
Punky in 3. 2. 1.


CaddyJimz06 03-08-2019 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by ROBWILKER (Post 1599011869)
Well, I can see them. I know they are difficult to photograph, especially the clear coat defects. I know, mine were very difficult to photo. GM wants you to have the attitude of acceptance for this inferior paint work. I would forget pursuiing this matter on the forum here. It seems the membership is replete with skeptics and persons who do not have a lot of positive or helpful things to say. Some of the comments have been downright hateful. A sign of the times I guess. You should document a case number with Chevy Customer Service, record the case number and handle all service visits and other correspondence in writing including case number. Start a written diary of dates, times, issue and persons contacted and their response or lack of response. IMO you are just asking for disappointment airing the problems here. There have been a few helpful exceptions here but I feel your best course of action would be to direct your efforts through the dealership service people at the delivering dealer or elsewhere.

Yea I don't know what to do because I bought the car from a Kansas dealer due to the whole find an allocation without mark-up game. I have a bad gut feeling about dealing with the Chevy dealers in my town. I might ultimately just accept the flaws because I don't know how I would feel to repaint a brand new ZR1. This is just crazy because this is suppose to be GM's flagship halo car.


Originally Posted by UnhandledException (Post 1599012894)
I have spent 60+ days with customer service, selling dealer, local dealers.

The best way to explain the ownership experience:

- Customer service : similar to dealing with walmart
- Appearance of the car visually : Its like IKEA furniture. Looks amazing from pictures or from a distance but up close its not. It doesnt feel premium.
- Driving of the car : Amazing. Power. Sheer torque. Handling. Out of this world.

It is such a pitty that such an amazing piece of machinery has this extremely shitty experience associated with it.

Customer service is more like the Apple genius bar. They are there to “guide” you, they have no authority over the dealer and they have no power in corporate GM. Their job is to ask for your zip code, find a dealer, call the dealer on your behalf (and even make a mess of things more when they call on your behalf and explain half of the issues wrong).

The dealers dont respond to emails. They dont respond to voicemails. They dont even answer the phone.

The biggest issue in this is the region you reside. If you are in a state like NY or NJ where the cost of living is 2-3x of say Ohio or FL, the problem is people working at these dealers are making fraction of their counterparts in Audi or BMW or Porsche who literally rule the market here. Very few chevys here and lots of euro cars. As a result, the treatment you get from chevy dealers are just atrocious. I m sure if I lived in Austin TX or Orlando FL or Tulsa OK, I would have a much better experience because people working on these cars and dealership staff probably do give a shit whereas people I have met are so fed up, so unhappy with their job that they have no incentive to help.

There are definitely a lot less Euro cars and much more domestics driving around in El Paso, where I live. But yes, even my wife is aware that Chevy customer service is garbage from visiting a number of dealers throughout the years. I would say a third of the dealerships I called to inquire about the ZR1 allocation didn't even know what a ZR1 is. I think many dealerships aren't prepared or have the knowledge needed to sell Corvettes. I will probably eventually bring the car in to have the paint looked at by one of the dealers in town. I kind of have to bring it in eventually because of the 500 mile oil change as well as having them install the factory performance intake and carbon fiber end caps.

Rinaldo Catria 03-08-2019 10:44 PM

I don’t know if this is any consolation at all, but there are no perfect paint jobs or panel alignments IMO. You will likely be the only one who notices the small defects... ever....Don’t let this ruin your experience with the car.

Les 03-09-2019 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by TARANTULA (Post 1599013142)
Punky in 3. 2. 1.

LOL! :yesnod:

Here's Punky behind the keyboard raging on-
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And here's Punky in real life-

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