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Turbo6TA 03-24-2019 04:12 PM

PAC RP5-GM11 "Plug & Play" > BS! > Look at all these wires !
 
Here is one reason that I don't think that I am going to install this Kenwood DNX575S in my GS by myself ....

I was under the impression that using the PAC RP5-GM11 Interface along with this new Kenwood HU, that it would be essentially a "Plug & Play" deal.

Well, look at my PAC RP5-GM11 photo below ... Look at all those wires that I have circled in blue (I count 17 of these wires)... Since they are all un-terminated wires, they will all need to be connected with solder or wire barrel connectors.

This is far from "Plug & Play"

What's the deal here?


https://i.imgur.com/hDWCvuw.jpg


TorchRedFred 03-24-2019 04:53 PM

LOL! You have to connect wires from the RP5-GM11 harness to the wires from your Kenwood harness. Once you do that, your Kenwood will be plug and play with your car. I used crimp style connectors, it was very easy to do. You just attach the same color wires together. 8 of the wires are your speaker wires (2 for front left, 2 for front right, and same for the L & R rears). 3 wires are power, 1 is amp turn on, 1 for dimming, etc..

These were the connectors I used,



Edit: Also, if you got it from CrutchField.com they would of connected the wires to your Kenwood for a small fee. But still easy to do.

TorchRedFred 03-24-2019 05:04 PM

Ron, also if you don't feel comfortable or don't want to waste a day doing the install, take it to Best Buy or some audio shop. If the price is right, it may not be worth your time and effort to do it yourself.

madsonp 03-24-2019 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by TorchRedFred (Post 1599101358)
LOL! You have to connect wires from the RP5-GM11 harness to the wires from your Kenwood harness. Once you do that, your Kenwood will be plug and play with your car. I used crimp style connectors, it was very easy to do. You just attach the same color wires together. 8 of the wires are your speaker wires (2 for front left, 2 for front right, and same for the L & R rears). 3 wires are power, 1 is amp turn on, 1 for dimming, etc..

These were the connectors I used,

https://www.amazon.com/Install-Bay-C...r=8-1-fkmrnull


Edit: Also, if you got it from CrutchField.com they would of connected the wires to your Kenwood for a small fee. But still easy to do.

Lets not forget the VSS, parking brake output, and reverse output wires also. :D

TorchRedFred 03-24-2019 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by madsonp (Post 1599102327)
Lets not forget the VSS, parking brake output, and reverse output wires also

That was included in the "etc" part of my post. :D

Turbo6TA 03-24-2019 07:47 PM

Well, I am not going to install any cameras (front or rear), so I guess that eliminates some of those wires.

madsonp 03-24-2019 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1599102350)
Well, I am not going to install any cameras (front or rear), so I guess that eliminates some of those wires.

In that case you don't need to connect the reverse output wire, so there's one you don't need to hook up.

Turbo6TA 03-24-2019 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by madsonp (Post 1599102369)

In that case you don't need to connect the reverse output wire, so there's one you don't need to hook up.

And without a rear camera, I guess there would be no need to connect the 'parking brake output' wire as mentioned above.

madsonp 03-24-2019 07:56 PM

Like Fred said, it's simple to do just make sure you pay attention to the wire colors and connect them color to color and your done, then just pull everything in and fire it up. Pay attention to the purple/white reverse output wire so you don't confuse it with the purple and purple/black speaker wires. I personally solder all my connections and use heat shrink tubing.

madsonp 03-24-2019 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1599102411)
And without a rear camera, I guess there would be no need to connect the 'parking brake output' wire as mentioned above.

You'll need the parking brake output wire hooked up to enter data in your navigation system, I know there's a way to bypass this on the Pioneer system by hooking the parking brake output wire from the head unit to the ground wire and not connecting and taping off the parking brake output wire from the PAC unit so you can enter data in the Nav system while driving, otherwise you have to be stopped and have the parking brake applied to do so, and I believe something similar can be done on the Kenwoods but I not familiar enough with them to tell you how is done

Turbo6TA 03-24-2019 08:21 PM

This shit is way above my pay grade ! !

madsonp 03-24-2019 08:30 PM

I came across this on youtube, this explains how to bypass a Kenwood.

madsonp 03-24-2019 08:34 PM

I'd suggest you take everything to a car stereo shop and have them wire everything up for you since you sound as though you're not comfortable at all doing it yourself.

TorchRedFred 03-24-2019 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo6TA (Post 1599102350)
Well, I am not going to install any cameras (front or rear), so I guess that eliminates some of those wires.

Ron, add a backup camera!!!!! It's so easy to do at this point and you can get a good camera for under $20. This is a must do, imo. You'll be happy you did, so just do it. Can't emphasize it enough.

TorchRedFred 03-24-2019 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by madsonp (Post 1599102463)
I know there's a way to bypass this on the Pioneer system by hooking the parking brake output wire from the head unit to the ground wire and not connecting and taping off the parking brake output wire from the PAC unit

Hey Madsonp, I thought I would share this with you since you have the Pioneer 8200. There is a secret menu to bypass the parking brake. Here is an old post of mine describing the steps if you are interested.

Copied post:
Another nice thing about this unit, and I believe all Pioneer Avic Nex models, is that the Pioneer has a "discreet" built in emergency brake bypass feature. I just activated this feature the other day after not being allowed to access some photos on my SD card while I was in motion. It's a one time activation that stays on forever unless you change your car battery and lose all power and/or repeat the steps to turn it off. Here's the steps if anyone is interested,


1- Press the main menu button (bottom center)
2- Press AV button on the screen to access AV options
3- Press the source off button
4- Press and hold your finger in the bottom left hand corner for about 10 seconds(about a half inch from bottom and a half inch from left side of the screen, there is no visual icon there, it is a hidden button)

After 10 seconds you will hear a small beep and see a small box appear in the center bottom of screen the says "set on". Procedure is now done and your parking brake is now permanently set to "on" as far as the head unit is concerned.

madsonp 03-25-2019 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by TorchRedFred (Post 1599102818)
Hey Madsonp, I thought I would share this with you since you have the Pioneer 8200. There is a secret menu to bypass the parking brake. Here is an old post of mine describing the steps if you are interested.

Copied post:
Another nice thing about this unit, and I believe all Pioneer Avic Nex models, is that the Pioneer has a "discreet" built in emergency brake bypass feature. I just activated this feature the other day after not being allowed to access some photos on my SD card while I was in motion. It's a one time activation that stays on forever unless you change your car battery and lose all power and/or repeat the steps to turn it off. Here's the steps if anyone is interested,


1- Press the main menu button (bottom center)
2- Press AV button on the screen to access AV options
3- Press the source off button
4- Press and hold your finger in the bottom left hand corner for about 10 seconds(about a half inch from bottom and a half inch from left side of the screen, there is no visual icon there, it is a hidden button)

After 10 seconds you will hear a small beep and see a small box appear in the center bottom of screen the says "set on". Procedure is now done and your parking brake is now permanently set to "on" as far as the head unit is concerned.

Yep, already knew about that, did it to my 8200, and the 8100 I have in my truck long ago, but hey, thanks for thinking about me.

madsonp 03-25-2019 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by TorchRedFred (Post 1599102783)
Ron, add a backup camera!!!!! It's so easy to do at this point and you can get a good camera for under $20. This is a must do, imo. You'll be happy you did, so just do it. Can't emphasize it enough.

:iagree:

dkpnkc 03-31-2019 09:12 PM

I personally recommend soldering, electrical tape and then binding the wires together stay night and tight. What I did when I installed my Pioneer in the C6. And like someone said, once you wire it into your radio harness, then it is plug/play. The one thing I didn't like was the door chime - but it is what it is. I used velcro and attached it to the inside top and it's out of the way.

Zed_six 04-14-2019 11:54 AM

It will make your life much easier if you use a cigar lighter or preferably a heat gun and all-in-one solder/heatshrink/water resistant tubing.

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i successfully used both methods and so far the all-in-one solution works great.

Zed_six 04-14-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by dkpnkc (Post 1599145074)
I personally recommend soldering, electrical tape and then binding the wires together stay night and tight. What I did when I installed my Pioneer in the C6. And like someone said, once you wire it into your radio harness, then it is plug/play. The one thing I didn't like was the door chime - but it is what it is. I used velcro and attached it to the inside top and it's out of the way.

yes the door chime has a loud shrill to the tone, easily attenuated with a little tape and hole made with a pen.


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