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CRBN C5 05-08-2019 12:59 PM

Advice 408ci W/ F1-A
 
Hey Guys,
So my current set-up is a LQ9 based 408ci. LSA Heads (ported out), Stock LS3 intake/TB and an F1-A on Meth and E85 (and everything else to support that) Current #'s are 1006/961, but i am losing a bunch of top end power from what I think is a blower restriction. Car makes about 13lbs of boost (I'm at 6000ft elevation BTW) and pulls great up to about 5600rpm. After that, its starting to nose off and dip the power. Its on a 3.8 pulley (could be a 3.7, not near the Vette right now) with a 10% over driven IW crank. Anyone else have a similar setup or care to comment before i go to a F1-A-94 R/X. We (tuner and I) think that the blower is maxed, but i called pro-charger and they say that the setup should support 1100 wheel. This is thru a RPM T56 as well FWIW with a 3.42 rear end ratio

Do you think the intake/TB could be the culprit for that? Think its just maxed on flow? Blower over spinning on that set-up? Another thought is the size of the motor is choking the blower

Thanks.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d030671366.jpg

Jackie N 05-08-2019 01:27 PM

Blower maxed. They're saying 1100 wheel, you're making 1000 at 6000' elevation. That's well beyond their rating.

CRBN C5 05-08-2019 01:37 PM

What we figured, thanks for the input.

Jackie N 05-08-2019 01:43 PM

You gotta be losing upwards of 20% up there (-/+3% per 1000'), so if that 1000hp you made is at the rear wheels, that's fuggin impressive man! Sick car.

69GTO96Z 05-08-2019 01:45 PM

What hood is that??

CRBN C5 05-08-2019 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jackie N (Post 1599365586)
You gotta be losing upwards of 20% up there (-/+3% per 1000'), so if that 1000hp you made is at the rear wheels, that's fuggin impressive man! Sick car.


Thanks. She hurts some feelings. 1006 was to the wheels.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...e4d8e8fc74.jpg

CRBN C5 05-08-2019 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by 69GTO96Z (Post 1599365605)
What hood is that??

TM Style CF Hood from Corvette Mods. https://www.corvettemods.com/C5-Corv...d_p_11455.html

ascastil 05-08-2019 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by CRBN C5 (Post 1599365709)
TM Style CF Hood from Corvette Mods. https://www.corvettemods.com/C5-Corv...d_p_11455.html

How was the fitment, I kinda likey.

Nosferatu333 05-08-2019 08:51 PM

What is redline set at? Curious if I should go f1a or f1d.

indint wasn’t anywhere near 1000hp though.

800 is my limit.

CRBN C5 05-08-2019 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Nosferatu333 (Post 1599368077)
What is redline set at? Curious if I should go f1a or f1d.

indint wasn’t anywhere near 1000hp though.

800 is my limit.

Redline is at 6.5k. Won’t make power past 5.6k. Depends on the size of the motor and power goals for you really. I’m happy with the power just hate giving up 1k rpm in the powerband.

CRBN C5 05-08-2019 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by ascastil (Post 1599367300)
How was the fitment, I kinda likey.

The same as any aftermarket body panel, lol. Frustrating to get fit correctly... it looks great once it’s on and lined up.

Nosferatu333 05-09-2019 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by CRBN C5 (Post 1599368597)
Redline is at 6.5k. Won’t make power past 5.6k. Depends on the size of the motor and power goals for you really. I’m happy with the power just hate giving up 1k rpm in the powerband.

Stupid question but any low end torque issues with f1a?

algZO6 05-09-2019 11:15 AM

FWIW, I see 1 psi for every 1000' of DA. I would double check the valve train just in case but you are more than likely out of blower.

CRBN C5 05-09-2019 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Nosferatu333 (Post 1599370834)
Stupid question but any low end torque issues with f1a?


Not at all with the bigger motor. Plenty of low end torque to be street able down low in the power band.

CRBN C5 05-09-2019 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by algZO6 (Post 1599370935)
FWIW, I see 1 psi for every 1000' of DA. I would double check the valve train just in case but you are more than likely out of blower.


We just went thru the top end recently before we tuned it. We're almost 100% sure its blower inefficiency.

Nosferatu333 05-09-2019 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by CRBN C5 (Post 1599372763)
Not at all with the bigger motor. Plenty of low end torque to be street able down low in the power band.

What your compression?

Thanks a lot for all the info. I appreciate it.

CRBN C5 05-09-2019 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nosferatu333 (Post 1599372891)
What your compression?

Thanks a lot for all the info. I appreciate it.


9.5:1

No Problem

95vettski 05-09-2019 08:42 PM

Great combo! What does it run in the 1/4 mile?

CRBN C5 05-09-2019 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by 95vettski (Post 1599374895)
Great combo! What does it run in the 1/4 mile?

Best is 10.6 @ 137. That’s with a 8,000ft DA and a 2.1 60 ft. Has a lot more in it, just getting my feet wet with the setup. Only had one track day, needs to stop snowing or raining out here, lol

95vettski 05-10-2019 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by CRBN C5 (Post 1599375089)
Best is 10.6 @ 137. That’s with a 8,000ft DA and a 2.1 60 ft. Has a lot more in it, just getting my feet wet with the setup. Only had one track day, needs to stop snowing or raining out here, lol

No doubt you have a lot more in it👍

Can you share any more pics of the car? It’s a sweet looking ride.


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