C8 tease video - what is the cross section of?
Hi, sorry if this was asked before. I know this video has been talked about before https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-v...2#teaser-video . I grabbed a copy and looked thru each frame, and there are some cool pictures in there. This one, I am not sure what it is... anyone know?
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engine. crank, conn rod, cam, timing chain
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Originally Posted by wdwinder
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engine. crank, conn rod, cam, timing chain
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A massive 2 gerotor oil pump that we've never seen and a 2nd timing chain that possibly leads to a 2nd cam making the LT2 twin cam in block.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
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A massive 2 gerotor oil pump that we've never seen and a 2nd timing chain that possibly leads to a 2nd cam making the LT2 twin cam in block.
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No room for error on these engines, warranty is your friend.
Has a chain tensioner there also, man this is no Model T but the Model T will out last that puppy any day of the week if you like an antique. |
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So what I don’t get is with all of the supposed advantages of 2 cams in block(?) why would Cadillac announce quite recently
the Blackwing DOHC engine platform which is also being built in BG? |
Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
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But there are enough lobes on the one cam shown not to need a second cam.
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2nd chain may turn a counter balancer to help stop excessive vibration
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Originally Posted by Dominic Sorresso
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So what I don’t get is with all of the supposed advantages of 2 cams in block(?) why would Cadillac announce quite recently
the Blackwing DOHC engine platform which is also being built in BG? https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-gets-its-due/ "So if the pushrod design makes such a good V-8, why does GM make a DOHC V-8 Northstar? "I'm not going to touch that one," laughs Winegarden. GM's party line is that some customers want what it calls "high-feature engines." |
Originally Posted by foot 1
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2nd chain may turn a counter balancer to help stop excessive vibration
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Originally Posted by MikeG37
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Or a chain driven supercharger :rofl:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...f4cd5bd05.jpeg Could be.... The cam is centered over the crank so the chain is not driving another cam. The question is what other sprocket is that chain attached to and what is it spinning? It has to be spinning something and needing a chain for reliability. Interesting picture. |
it would save space instead of a wide belt. But I dont think that will be the answer to the riddle.
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I'm probably wrong but from the location of the rods on the crank it looks like a flat plane crankshaft. The ones in view look to be 180 deg apart.
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Looks like 90° to me
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FPC and Secondary Chain
It’s not a FPC- you can see second throw (no rods) at 90 degrees to front throw. If not a FPC, shouldn’t need balance shaft, but secondary chain is smaller in cross section so wouldn’t think it would be a second cam or even extra set of sohc cams. Could be chain driven balance shaft but 90 degree v8 is relatively a balanced setup.
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Originally Posted by Extreme Engineering
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but secondary chain is smaller in cross section so wouldn’t think it would be a second cam or even extra set of sohc cams. Could be chain driven balance shaft but 90 degree v8 is relatively a balanced setup.
I'm not sure that your logic is correct on the chains... The first chain has the load of both cams. The second chain only has the load of the top cam (and any others attached to it) Thus, the first chain (the bottom chain) has the load of the top cam plus the load of the bottom cam... so, of course, the bottom chain would need to be thicker than the top thinner chain. The top thinner chain absolutely has less load than the bottom chain. The fact that they are different thicknesses is what a 2 or more cam motor would have. The bottom will always be the thickest, and as you go up, they would become thinner and thinner. There could be 2 more chains attached to the next cam up, and those would have even thinner chains yet, going over to the OHC's on each head. |
Originally Posted by Extreme Engineering
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It’s not a FPC- you can see second throw (no rods) at 90 degrees to front throw. If not a FPC, shouldn’t need balance shaft, but secondary chain is smaller in cross section so wouldn’t think it would be a second cam or even extra set of sohc cams. Could be chain driven balance shaft but 90 degree v8 is relatively a balanced setup.
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Originally Posted by Dominic Sorresso
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Are u saying there is an in-block cam PLUS OHCs?
Then I explained to him that whether there is one more cam up top, or 20 more cams up top, the 2nd top chain is always going to be thinner than the bottom chain, because the bottom chain is spinning the bottom cam plus whatever is up top, so it will always have a higher load than the top chain. |
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