Loss of vacuum when left foot braking
Has anyone experienced this on a road course?
Thanks, Jim |
how are you measuring vacuum? the boost gauge?
if youre pressing the gas and brake at the same time then torque management will intervene causing a potential perception of vacuum loss |
Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
(Post 1599532815)
how are you measuring vacuum? the boost gauge?
if youre pressing the gas and brake at the same time then torque management will intervene causing a potential perception of vacuum loss Jim |
Originally Posted by Painrace
(Post 1599536285)
Vacuum pump can't keep up! I am installing a surge vacuum tank!
Jim |
Works GREAT. No issues now!
Jim |
Can you post a pic of the install please? Operations, didn’t you do something similar? How did it work out and can you post a picture please? Thanks
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We did swap out the Vac pump for the a race pump, when we went out to test we were also testing out our 2650R, cam, ported heads etc at the same time, the change made 850/800rw, but on track we started blowing a ton of oil through the PCV, we tried various catch cans and re plumbing the lines, but it volume of oil under WOT was to great for any of our solutions to work. We ran compression checks and found no issues there. On the last track test I took Sergio from LG as a passenger to watch the gauges and his laptop with HP tuners. He saw my dash oil pressure dip really low, so we killed the engine and was towed in.
Pulled the engine, only then did we find a piston broken, that cylinder was also really worn. Likely the piston was damaged a while back when the Callaway SC cooling brick failed and flooded the right cylinders with water. Unknown to anyone because it ran fine before turning it off a week prior, upon trying to start the engine we must of cracked the piston due to being it was hydrolocked, all we know is it would not turn over. Long story short, it took a 0.010 over bore to clean up the worn cylinder, we ordered new pistons from Racetec, going on six weeks now waiting on them, then sending them on to Swain Tech for coating. So the Race vac pump test in inconclusive for now. |
Quite a story! Even with a broken piston, worn cylinder a good compression. Oil must have sealed it up pretty good. That Callaway SC cooling brick turned into an expensive ordeal. Report back with updates.
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Originally Posted by Painrace
(Post 1599500275)
Has anyone experienced this on a road course?
Thanks, Jim |
Originally Posted by range96
(Post 1603479331)
Why do you use left foot braking on this car? Do you see any lap time differences? Always willing to learn...
Some will post a few more reasons, bit in the end, done well it good for some time savings. Most pros will recommend not to introduce left foot braking until you are already a prettying fast advanced driver. |
Originally Posted by Operations
(Post 1603479515)
There are various reasons for left foot braking, most are to get the weight transferred to neutral or to the front while still on throttle to keep momentum up and to get the traction on the front so the car will turn in. Sometimes your just wanting to begin braking before the right foot is off the gas completely, but for most its about another tool to assist in car placement, and rotation while carrying speed
Some will post a few more reasons, bit in the end, done well it good for some time savings. Most pros will recommend not to introduce left foot braking until you are already a prettying fast advanced driver. On the ZR1 there is a 'hanging throttle' (lag between you let off the throttle and the computer dials in 0 throttle). I assume it's strictly for emission reasons. At initial brake application I still feel the car pulling. |
Originally Posted by range96
(Post 1603479331)
Why do you use left foot braking on this car? Do you see any lap time differences? Always willing to learn...
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Originally Posted by Operations
(Post 1603479515)
There are various reasons for left foot braking, most are to get the weight transferred to neutral or to the front while still on throttle to keep momentum up and to get the traction on the front so the car will turn in. Sometimes your just wanting to begin braking before the right foot is off the gas completely, but for most its about another tool to assist in car placement, and rotation while carrying speed
Some will post a few more reasons, bit in the end, done well it good for some time savings. Most pros will recommend not to introduce left foot braking until you are already a prettying fast advanced driver. |
It was a fun ride! Thanks Southern Son!
Painrace |
Can either of you post a picture of your surge tank install please? I’m considering this due to the inconsistency of my brakes at the track. Thanks
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I had LG order it and do the install, might check with them.
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Originally Posted by Operations
(Post 1603842648)
I had LG order it and do the install, might check with them.
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Originally Posted by rico750sxi
(Post 1603849191)
Thanks, you don't happen to have a picture of the engine compartment where the surge tank is by chance? I just need to see where in the line it is being spliced into. Thanks
Hope this helps |
Originally Posted by Operations
(Post 1603849548)
Sorry no, I believe it is spliced between the pump and brake booster, as far has mounting, they removed the wiper washer tank awhile back and used some of that space. I believe the wiper washer tank was under the brake booster.
Hope this helps |
Originally Posted by range96
(Post 1603479331)
Why do you use left foot braking on this car? Do you see any lap time differences? Always willing to learn...
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