2021 Ferrari SF90-Stradale vs 202X Corvette Zora/ZR1
 

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The 2021 SF90 Stradale

- V8 Engine, 3990 cc, 780 cv (769 hp) max power at 7500 rpm via an "internal combustion engine integrated with three electric motors, two of which are independent and located on the front axle, with the third at the rear between the engine and the gearbox" with total powertrain output of 986 hp.
- All wheel drive
- 8 speed, dual clutch gearbox
- Estimated MSRP around $500,000 USD
- "Eyes on the Road, Hands on the Wheel - The Head Up Display is another part of the innovative HMI (Human Machine Interface) and allows various data to be projected onto the windshield within the driver's field of vision so that their attention is not distracted from driving." (Corvette wishes to welcome Ferrari to the 90's!)
- "The tail lights have also evolved quite radically from Ferrari’s iconic round shape. The eye-catching, more horizontal luminous rings create a more horizontal perception of the tail lights which in turn visually lowers the height of the tail." (Ferrari wishes to thank Camaro for the inspiration behind this design.)

(Source: Ferrari SF90 website)


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The 202X ZR1/Zora

- Total powertrain output rumored at 1,000 hp via similar hybrid design
- Potential all wheel drive
- Likely dual clutch gearbox
- Estimated MSRP under $200,000 (as low as $169,000 even?)
- Head Up Display? Definitely a good chance that this isn't going away any time soon.
- Camaro tailights? Nah, but since Chevrolet shares similar design cues across their vehicle platforms, there will always be some who say the Corvette has Camaro taillights.


It's exciting to think about what the Corvette Team has planned over the coming years!

I doubt the ZR1 shows up in the second model year. It’s at least 4-5 years out in my opinion.

apples and oranges...

Ferraris and Corvettes....

Yes, that's why I posted 202X. But the design phase has already started. :)

Maybe, but how do we know? That's the exciting part to me. The Corvette Team may have some surprises up their sleeves. :)

Apples vs Modi

or apple vs pc

One of the more enjoyable sets of differences b/n these two, is that the Zora will actually be available for purchase if somebody wants to pick one up, and the buyer will be free to actually drive it and enjoy it.

The Ferrari will be garage floor art for those who have played Ferrari's purchase games. But, very nice garage floor art.

True statements, but sadly, most ZR1s are also garage floor art....

There is some truth in that. Although mine haven't been. I've tracked every one of my rigs and driven them all over Heaven's half acre. But, I get your point.

Availability for purchase and the freedom to actually drive and enjoy the rig are major plusses of Corvette high performance variants, though.

Even with the differences, the C8 lineup is likely going to offer us amenities that we never thought possible at such a "low" price point. I do think it's funny that the Ferrari website touts their groundbreaking taillight design and Head Up Display, which is the first for Ferrari. But if it's garage floor art, then I guess they really don't need the Head Up Display anyway? :lol:

Neat... but I have no interest in a 1,000 horse hybrid show pony. Now if GM came out with a modern DOHC NA V8 with an 8K or 9K rpm redline I'd be very very very interested in something other than the standard Stingray. If the Z06 returned to being a lighter NA track-oriented car I'd be all over it. However, GM has decided that the Z06 is something different now (vs. the C5/6 years). I suspect it will be twin turbo which I have no interest in. KISS.

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I wonder if, after all the issues with the C7 Z06 and it's lack of track readiness, if they don't go back to something more like the C6 Z06 and let the ZR1 be the big crazy high HP car....just thinking.

I don't think so... I think the Z06 will be twin turbo and then the ZR1/Zora will be twin turbo with electric front hybrid drive. That's what some of the leaked info stated. That said, we have kept hearing about 3 motors: 6.2 OHV, 5.5 DOHC, 4.X DOHC. Who knows if any of that was crossed wires with the Blackwing. Not sure why they'd want to have two variants of DOHC motors... more parts, more training for techs, more everything.

Not a fan of turbos either.
However, if they can build it without a turbo lag (like Ferrari has done), it might be worth a consideration.

I hear you. I certainly have no information hinting at what I wrote....it was more wishful thinking than anything else. C7 Z06 and ZR1 were so similar in execution, wouldn't it make sense to get a bit more distance between them?
Again, wishful thinking.
Howabout a N/A 5.5L DOHC? Should be easy to get 600HP out of that.
Then, turbocharge THAT engine for the ZR1 and ignore the 4.2L

Hey man, I'm on a roll...I got it ALL figured out:rolleyes:

Then you are one of very few and my hat's off to you. I've seen I think two ZR1s at the track and a handful of them on the road. I see Ferraris at both constantly.

I recently saw a C6 ZR1 for sale with under 2000 miles. Why oh why? I almost bought a C4 ZR1 a few years ago with under 5k but the guy wanted too much for it. Buying these cars and not driving them is like not having sex with your girlfriend to save her for her next boyfriend.

with the new C8 no one need a Ferrari anymore.

God you people are bored and start threads on just about anything these day....

......but they will also have a C8 ZR1 as their beater if they wish😏

Yup.

The Ferrari is $2million not $500k. No comparison, vetted will never be ferraris, sorry. It's ok though. It's just the way it is and always has been.

Those Camaro tail lights on the Ferrari look kick ass.

Top Gear..."On top of all that, the SF90 will cost about £400,000. The LaFerrari was £1million. So that makes the new SF90 a bargain. Faster, cleverer, less than half the price. In six years. That’s some achievement."

$505,520 USD

:cheers:

Evidently, not quite as bored as you. :lol:

So, that's how a 'base' ZR1 will cost $169,900! Completely optioned out - $200K. I think that is very reasonable for a 1,000hp AWD hybrid Vette. If GM keeps the weight under 3,600 lbs I'm all ears! :)

And just like it has been since 1957, the vast majority of new Corvette purchases will not be the super duper mega high performance, high priced version.

Waiting to see if the C8 GS will be close to C7 Z06 in performance.

Sure would be nice if the Vette ends up looking as awesome the the Ferrari. Wishful thinking.....

My comment comes out of frustration, not boredom. Ya'll need to stop with these useless threads. How about I start a new thread everyday for the next 6-7 weeks while we wait for real info just to clutter up the forum...like this one does. See the frustration...that's not boredom. :)

Not sure why you think this is a "useless" thread, but when you're a Corvette Forum Admin, you can delete the "useless threads" that you want to. Until then, guess we'll just have to put up with you being the "Corvette Forum Frustrating Thread Police." Maybe I can get an admin to add that designation to your profile? :lol: :cheers:

Now, back to the topic...the point of my post is that Corvette has come a long way and is actually competing in various ways with some of the world's best production sports cars. I don't expect that to end anytime soon either, but for Corvette to continue to push towards being the best performance value in the world.

Garret, the entire C8 section is filled with useless threads on the upcoming mid engine. If all these "useless" threads were actually deleted, the C8 Section might only have about 10-12 threads in it total.

If you don't like these threads, simply don't open them. But to complain about them is a different story. Everyone is excited about this new car. I'm sure the C7 General section looked this exact same way before the reveal of the Stingray.

That Ferrari is amazing, don’t even belong on the same page as a Vette, come on.

How do we know? The C7 took huge steps forward, with the C7 ZR1 taking it even further. I bet the C8 takes it to another level as well. Let's see what happens.

As far as them being on the same page as a Corvette, the Corvette Team thinks they do...

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I think the OP is right....

BTW Steven, are you going to use wax or sealant or get Ceramic coating on your C8. Man, I just CANNOT decide....
And: Are you going to get paint protection film on yours?
Which brand?
Are you going to wrap the entire car?
I can't decide.
And: Are you going to get Z51 or base?
I can't decide.
ETC....
There you go, OP. NOW that's some REALLY boring and/or frustrating stuff for you.

All righty then...
You're comparing a production car to a camouflaged car....

And BTW, jump on to FerrariChat and see what FERRAI OWNERS think of the SF90 (especially the rear deck/taillights/gun slit back light/engine cover)….HINT: it's not positive. HINT#2: Camaro taillights reared their ugly head

Hey now, stop that crazy talk...with facts and such...this is the C8 FORUM, mister.

I agree. No car manufacturer in my opinion remotely approaches the sheer beauty of a 458/488 Ferrari. Their may be a line or two on the C8 that looks Ferrari like....but it’s my inclination to believe it will end there.

I can believe it.
My reaction isn't positive either (and I'm a Ferrari Lover going way back).
Fortunately, there is time for Maranello to change it before production starts.

You forgot which floor mats? Lloyds, Weather tech, I just don't know.

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Jeez Tool, what are you, a DOPE? Everyone knows it's Lloyds. They drop interior sound level by 3db.. Get with it, for goodness sakes.
BTW, since Lloyds mats are heavier than the stock GM mats, they lower the center of gravity by .00000004% which makes for better handling.

imo corvette looks better even in disguise .....Ferrari designers lost their touch with this version

While we're at it, stop cluttering up your lungs with city air. Wait until that trip to the mountains.

I am a Covette guy but also a Ferrari owner. I have to say I do not care for the SF 90 from the doors back.

I am currently considering ordering a new F8 which I think Ferrari did a fantastic job on the design.

I am not the only Ferrari owner that is not crazy about the SF90 check out Ferrari chat lots of negative feed back.

Oh one more thing this will be 1million plus not 500k

But Ferrari will sell everyone they build as it will be limited and die hard Ferrari guys will want it just because it the latest greatest Ferrari.

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See post #22 in this thread. NO ONE is reporting that the SF90 is going to be $1Million dollars or even close to that. It is a production Ferrari, not a "Special" like the Enzo/LaFerrari/etc....

If the C8 steps it up & comes standard with Lloyd Floormats then its definitely better than a Ferrari Stradale

You got that.
If I could swing that, I'd have a gray one like that pic in a heartbeat.

You're not even a mediocre troll.