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Hot Rod Roy 07-01-2019 05:14 PM

To talk to a man with the answers, call Matt Sweeting at Power Brake Service, Huntington Beach CA, 714-330-5286, http://PowerBrakeService.net They built a custom dual diaphragm metal booster for me, and the brakes on my '84 will stand the car on its nose!

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...f57639f22d.jpg

Matt drives a ZR-1 with a HydraBoost power brake conversion.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...9a6e8b51a2.jpg

A95Y 07-02-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by A95Y (Post 1599678862)
Sunday night. ZR1 Corvette it says. 1992-1995. Reman. It hasn't shipped yet, so I am skeptical. It shows a picture of a ZR1 booster.


Order refunded!

Rkreigh 07-03-2019 07:19 AM

I'd sure consider the hydraboost as the assist is MUCH better and brake feel is dramatically improved.

A95Y 07-03-2019 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rkreigh (Post 1599687922)
I'd sure consider the hydraboost as the assist is MUCH better and brake feel is dramatically improved.


I don't have power steering. I can't use hydroboost.

I ended up putting another plastic one on for now. At least it's got a limited lifetime warranty from Autozone.

WVZR-1 07-04-2019 11:03 AM

I actually had Matt in mind when I mentioned 'electric' several posts ago. Since he fabricated the 'dual' for HRR maybe you just have the conversation with him anyway. Several I believe have tried/attempted conversations with him regarding the hydra-boost but I've never seen anyone do a 'start to finish' install on a ZR-1. Other than his personal, I don't recall others. I've seen it discussed only a couple times. I didn't have the Toyota stuff in mind when I mentioned electric.

You should be covered for awhile I'd think with this buy - maybe use your time wisely

A '92+ 'salvage'??????

A95Y 07-04-2019 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 1599695357)
I actually had Matt in mind when I mentioned 'electric' several posts ago. Since he fabricated the 'dual' for HRR maybe you just have the conversation with him anyway. Several I believe have tried/attempted conversations with him regarding the hydra-boost but I've never seen anyone do a 'start to finish' install on a ZR-1. Other than his personal, I don't recall others. I've seen it discussed only a couple times. I didn't have the Toyota stuff in mind when I mentioned electric.

You should be covered for awhile I'd think with this buy - maybe use your time wisely

A '92+ 'salvage'??????

Matt has a dual diaphragm on his site, ready to buy. $245. http://powerbrakeservice.net/1984-19...te-vacuum.html. It looks like a ZR1 from HRR's picture. That hydro-boost looks like it takes up too much room. What were you thinking in terms of electric power steering? I just bought a MR2 pump off Ebay. I'd lke a booster from a salvage ZR1. But why? Matt has a brand new one for the price I was quoted from a boneyard.

WVZR-1 07-04-2019 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by A95Y (Post 1599695523)
Matt has a dual diaphragm on his site, ready to buy. $245. http://powerbrakeservice.net/1984-19...te-vacuum.html. It looks like a ZR1 from HRR's picture. That hydro-boost looks like it takes up too much room. What were you thinking in terms of electric power steering? I just bought a MR2 pump off Ebay. I'd lke a booster from a salvage ZR1. But why? Matt has a brand new one for the price I was quoted from a boneyard.


Wouldn't hurt to talk to him The link seems to take a person to a 'dual' intended for a possible install for a car with 'NO' ABS. It shows a hydraulic block BUT then again it's just an image. You need to actually discuss it with Matt or someone else at that facility. You need to talk to 'folks' wild a$$ links to everywhere might get you lots of info!! You've experienced that already it seems. Ask Matt about electric!! There's a couple/actually many I think that have electric here in the vicinity. Many 'well engineered' hot rods

A known 'salvage' should get a person exactly what he pays for. You ask for and pay for a '92+ ZR-1 'dual' that's what you should expect!!

A95Y 07-04-2019 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 1599695630)
Wouldn't hurt to talk to him The link seems to take a person to a 'dual' intended for a possible install for a car with 'NO' ABS. It shows a hydraulic block BUT then again it's just an image. You need to actually discuss it with Matt or someone else at that facility. You need to talk to 'folks' wild a$$ links to everywhere might get you lots of info!! You've experienced that already it seems. Ask Matt about electric!! There's a couple/actually many I think that have electric here in the vicinity. Many 'well engineered' hot rods

A known 'salvage' should get a person exactly what he pays for. You ask for and pay for a '92+ ZR-1 'dual' that's what you should expect!!

I'm not too worried about it now. I just spend $145 on an Autozone reman. while looking for a salvage ZR1 for at a decent price. Do you have one?
When you talk electric, you are referring to electric steering, correct?

Thanks

WVZR-1 07-04-2019 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by A95Y (Post 1599695663)
I'm not too worried about it now. I just spend $145 on an Autozone reman. while looking for a salvage ZR1 for at a decent price. Do you have one?
When you talk electric, you are referring to electric steering, correct?

Thanks


No 'electric boost hydraulic' brakes! I had a couple B'villes with Teves and maybe an STE also had Teves. Matt has many. Ain't none inexpensive!

A95Y 07-04-2019 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 1599695727)
No 'electric boost hydraulic' brakes! I had a couple B'villes with Teves and maybe an STE also had Teves. Matt has many. Ain't none inexpensive!

That looks like a lot of extra weight. I'm trying to shed weight although incorporating electric power steering is going to add some weight.

Hot Rod Roy 07-10-2019 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 1599695727)
No. Electric boost hydraulic brakes! . Matt has many. Ain't none inexpensive!

A 'vette friend put electric boost power brakes on his '84, so we have fun comparing cars! I can't match his 409 SBC, but he likes my dual diaphragm brakes better than his electric boost!

He's driving the white Shinoda conversion in this pic, and we're chasing two ZR-1's thru some mountain twisty's! Too much fun!!!

(p.s. I didn't have any trouble keeping up with them!)

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...24c7399ca2.jpg

:D

Casethecorvetteman 02-09-2022 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by A95Y (Post 1599678507)

Bit late here and you probably have the answer by now, but yes the ZR1 booster will bolt right in if you drill the extra 4 holes right through.

I used to rebuild those plastic PBR boosters here in Australia, a number of Australian cars used them, the replacements you were getting that were constantly failing were either Cardone or AC Delco rebuilds, and they did not use genuine parts to rebuild them. The parts they use are made in China, and they are f***en useless.

I just did one yesterday in an 88 and it had a Cardone in it, the shell was cracked in the rear, and when i pulled it apart to rebuild it i found the diaphragm was pinched in the edge of the booster as they assembled it. It was not screwed together to the correct thickness either. Just plain rubbish. They will fail very quickly if they are not assembled correctly.

As of today, i am not longer able to buy these Genuine PBR boosters new, they have been discontinued, and the rebuild kit was discontinued a few years ago.

The ZR-1 booster is a PBR VH6007, and made in Australia. If it says AC Delco on it then it is NOT an OEM part, it is a remanufactured part, AC Delco never made brake boosters.

I have not yet looked to see what other cars used this booster, but it is not a ZR-1 specific item, it is an off the shelf part GM used at the time.


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