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HorsePowerObsessed 07-11-2019 12:30 AM

A C7 Z06 owner takes a C7 ZR1 for a drive. The difference is bigger than you think
 
Definitely an interesting drive. It's a more "refined" version of the Z06 as far as ride/power goes.


Higgs Boson 07-11-2019 08:59 AM

comparing a 15 Z06 to a 19 ZR1 or a 19 Z06 to a 19 ZR1?

Savoy2001 07-11-2019 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Higgs Boson (Post 1599735315)
comparing a 15 Z06 to a 19 ZR1 or a 19 Z06 to a 19 ZR1?

It really doesn't matter what year the Z06 was or is. I've driven both years and if someone didn't tell you what year car you were driving you wouldn't know I promise you. A Z06 is a Z06. Those suttle differences everyone here likes to talk about are not noticable in every day driving.

HorsePowerObsessed 07-11-2019 12:10 PM

It's a 15 Z06 with the DSC controller but everything feels much more refined in the ZR1. I've driven a 19 Z06 at the dealership for comparison sake and it's still not the same. It's definitely noticeable on the street, at least to me it is.

Zo62018A8 07-11-2019 01:10 PM

I think we can all mutually agree a zr1 is better and faster than a z06. The question is it worth the extra $40k-$50k more? When I got my 18 z06 in Jan of 2018 from Macmulkin I paid $10k off msrp. I wonder if anyone has gotten $10k off sticker on a zr1?

Higgs Boson 07-11-2019 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savoy2001 (Post 1599735528)
It really doesn't matter what year the Z06 was or is. I've driven both years and if someone didn't tell you what year car you were driving you wouldn't know I promise you. A Z06 is a Z06. Those suttle differences everyone here likes to talk about are not noticable in every day driving.


Originally Posted by JAYNO20 (Post 1599736462)
It's a 15 Z06 with the DSC controller but everything feels much more refined in the ZR1. I've driven a 19 Z06 at the dealership for comparison sake and it's still not the same. It's definitely noticeable on the street, at least to me it is.

I had a 14 Stingray, a 16 Z06, currently a 17 Z06, and have spent meaningful time (weeks) in two different ZR1's and elected not to move to one because they do not feel any different to me than any other C7, except for the obvious (heavy throttle power, mostly).

If I didn't have so many modifications on my Z06 it may be a different decision to start modding with the LT5 instead of LT4 but at this point I couldn't justify it, especially with how similar the "rest" of the car feels. It's funny how people act like they are different cars....

I am just saying, already having a modded Z06, $140k for me would be better spent adding something different to the garage, like an AWD turbo car, rather than a swap to a marginal difference same car situation.

Just exercising my 1st Amendment rights, keep your panties straight. ;-)

HorsePowerObsessed 07-11-2019 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Higgs Boson (Post 1599736922)
I had a 14 Stingray, a 16 Z06, currently a 17 Z06, and have spent meaningful time (weeks) in two different ZR1's and elected not to move to one because they do not feel any different to me than any other C7, except for the obvious (heavy throttle power, mostly).

If I didn't have so many modifications on my Z06 it may be a different decision to start modding with the LT5 instead of LT4 but at this point I couldn't justify it, especially with how similar the "rest" of the car feels. It's funny how people act like they are different cars....

I am just saying, already having a modded Z06, $140k for me would be better spent adding something different to the garage, like an AWD turbo car, rather than a swap to a marginal difference same car situation.

Just exercising my 1st Amendment rights, keep your panties straight. ;-)

No problem at all. We all have our opinions. Mine is just different from yours. :thumbs:

Z06_Ruff 07-11-2019 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by desibaba (Post 1599736839)
I think we can all mutually agree a zr1 is better and faster than a z06. The question is it worth the extra $40k-$50k more? When I got my 18 z06 in Jan of 2018 from Macmulkin I paid $10k off msrp. I wonder if anyone has gotten $10k off sticker on a zr1?

This is my question also.

RidgeRunner0207 07-11-2019 02:56 PM

I'll wait the market out, in a few years I'll pick up a 19/ZR1 for sub $90k............just like all other models they fall in price.

My 2009/AO/ZR1 was knocking on $118k in 2009, previous owner paid full MSRP..........purchased it @ 6 years old/6855 miles for $60K

They will all hit a bottom, but avoiding the initial depreciation and then buying a low mileage queen is well worth the wait IMHO, especially when you have other Supercharged models to drive while you wait out the market

Z0HS1CK 07-11-2019 03:22 PM

Zr1 is a better model period. Those thinking if it's worth the extra 40 or 50 grand or not depending on trim is all relative.

Its better engineered, more power, more efficient cooling or so it seems. And has the zr1 badge.

RidgeRunner0207 07-11-2019 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by RobGZ06 (Post 1599737782)
Zr1 is a better model period. Those thinking if it's worth the extra 40 or 50 grand or not depending on trim is all relative.

Its better engineered, more power, more efficient cooling or so it seems. And has the zr1 badge.

I could be wrong, but the 2019 Z06 has almost all the ZR1 goods with respect to interior, trans, axle, PDR, etc, if you get Z07 the brakes are most likely the same as the ZR1.

LT4 vs LT5, and cooling.

If you don't track it I can't see much difference on the street, I saw the video of a Z06 vs a ZR1, both 2019.........the ZR1 obviously outpulls it from a dig eventually and a roll after a few seconds.

That being said, for me I got $15k off discount on my ordered 2019/Z06 Vert.

It put me $60k less than a ZR1 Vert, for me, ehhhhhh 650HP is just fine, for others it might not be enough.

To each their own, eventually I will add another low mileage queen to the stable, for now I got what I want and need

HorsePowerObsessed 07-11-2019 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by RobGZ06 (Post 1599737782)
Zr1 is a better model period. Those thinking if it's worth the extra 40 or 50 grand or not depending on trim is all relative.

Its better engineered, more power, more efficient cooling or so it seems. And has the zr1 badge.

This has been my experience as well.

Gee Venom 07-11-2019 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by RidgeRunner0207 (Post 1599737823)
I could be wrong, but the 2019 Z06 has almost all the ZR1 goods with respect to interior, trans, axle, PDR, etc, if you get Z07 the brakes are most likely the same as the ZR1.

LT4 vs LT5, and cooling.

If you don't track it I can't see much difference on the street, I saw the video of a Z06 vs a ZR1, both 2019.........the ZR1 obviously outpulls it from a dig eventually and a roll after a few seconds.

That being said, for me I got $15k off discount on my ordered 2019/Z06 Vert.

It put me $60k less than a ZR1 Vert, for me, ehhhhhh 650HP is just fine, for others it might not be enough.

To each their own, eventually I will add another low mileage queen to the stable, for now I got what I want and need

I have a 19 Z myself and very happy with it! I heard it shares a few parts with the new ZR1 and it probably preforms a hair better than the previous year models. I知 not a race car driver nor did I buy it to race so I知 not sure if what I致e said is true. But the car as fast and beautiful.

HorsePowerObsessed 07-11-2019 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Gee Venom (Post 1599738462)
I have a 19 Z myself and very happy with it! I heard it shares a few parts with the new ZR1 and it probably preforms a hair better than the previous year models. I知 not a race car driver nor did I buy it to race so I知 not sure if what I致e said is true. But the car as fast and beautiful.


No reason to not be happy about any one of the cars in the C7 lineup! I'm not saying you should run out and trade your Z06 for a ZR1, I was just sharing my experience. These are both very capable cars!

Z0HS1CK 07-11-2019 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by RidgeRunner0207 (Post 1599737823)
I could be wrong, but the 2019 Z06 has almost all the ZR1 goods with respect to interior, trans, axle, PDR, etc, if you get Z07 the brakes are most likely the same as the ZR1.

LT4 vs LT5, and cooling.

If you don't track it I can't see much difference on the street, I saw the video of a Z06 vs a ZR1, both 2019.........the ZR1 obviously outpulls it from a dig eventually and a roll after a few seconds.

That being said, for me I got $15k off discount on my ordered 2019/Z06 Vert.

It put me $60k less than a ZR1 Vert, for me, ehhhhhh 650HP is just fine, for others it might not be enough.

To each their own, eventually I will add another low mileage queen to the stable, for now I got what I want and need

I'll gladly take the LT5, better cooling, more effective aero, better front bumper, bigger supercharger, the ZR1 badge and most importantly, 755hp on a 100 degree day (so more power on a cooler day), all WITH a warranty over a z06. It's a better version of what our cars are, period. Of course that's why it costs that much more.

15k off, 30k off, even if you can get a brand new z06 for 50 grand, that will never make it better than a ZR1. All you got is a deal on a car that is still a lesser grade to the ZR1. ANd you still run into the same z06 problems anyway.

Hence why some people go for the upgrade from the z06 to the zr1.

Gee Venom 07-11-2019 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by JAYNO20 (Post 1599738686)
No reason to not be happy about any one of the cars in the C7 lineup! I'm not saying you should run out and trade your Z06 for a ZR1, I was just sharing my experience. These are both very capable cars!

I know bro..I知 a suscribir to your channel and love your content. I also have the same color Z as you. I知 trying to find you on IG.
Whats your name on IG?

Always Red Dave 07-11-2019 06:23 PM

2017 Z06 owner here and I agree that the ZR1 is a faster car not denying that but IS SO UGLY compared to the Z06 especially the Big wing! I like the front end,hood wheels and side front fender vents,price much better on my Z06 than the ZR1's and did I mention the BIG WING a deal killer for me ! I would be embarrassed to drive that car in public with that BIG WING!.That car looks like a NASCAR 100% and that's where it should be on the track. NOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A C6 ZR1 THAT CAR IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! JMHO and you know what they say about opinions!:D

Pacembellum 07-11-2019 06:34 PM

TL;DR

remember huge difference between z06 with 3LZ comp seats, suede, flat bottom carbon suede steering wheel, color matched stitching, carbon dash, etc vs the lower level trims. Night and day difference.

Gee Venom 07-11-2019 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Pacembellum (Post 1599738875)
TL;DR

remember huge difference between z06 with 3LZ comp seats, suede, flat bottom carbon suede steering wheel, color matched stitching, carbon dash, etc vs the lower level trims. Night and day difference.

True!!! I have an 3LZ with the Z07 package. Carbon dash, black interior with comp seats with red stitching. I also added the red seatbelts. Love it!

usrodeo4 07-11-2019 08:33 PM

I am sure it gets your attention, 100 H.P. will do that...my 997 TT on the 93 tune had approx. 603 WHP (on the 997 TT the parasitic loss is only about 8.5% to 10% so let's call it 654 BHP) but on the E85 tune she pulled over 715 WHP so BHP was well over 765 BHP. As my Engineering College major Son said, Yeah she is scary fast on 93 but she is like a spaceship on the E85.


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