Something BAD happened to my engine
And I cannot figure it out! I hope someone here will have some ideas.
First, some background. Since I got my 62 back on the road this summer, I have been chasing two (obviously related) problems: overheating (when timing is retarded) and pinging (when it is advanced) I am getting closer and this morning was quite good in both respects. I live in the middle of nowhere with 2.5 miles of dirt road in either direction. I was on my way home from the Post Office when I hit a particularly bad pothole. The entire car shook badly. I knew immediately that something was wrong as the car continued to shake badly as I tried to drive on. I wasn't sure if it was the suspension (which I had just totally rebuilt last summer) or the engine. I stopped and looked everything over and the suspension seemed OK. As I started off, it became clear that it was the engine. With any effort at acceleration, but bucked and shook badly. (Like the shift lever was gyrating wildly.) I made it home as it was mostly downhill at that point. So here is where I'm at: The engine starts easily and idles as smoothly as it ever has (LT-1, sort of lopey.) I can rev the engine to at least 4000 with no problems - MOST OF THE TIME. Sometimes, especially it seems if I bring the revs up slowly, it starts shaking and knocking at about 1000 and continues until I drop it back to idle. If I try to drive, it is OK on flat or down hill, but the minute there is any load on it, the engine starts bucking - maybe like it were misfiring?? When that happens, the tach jumps all over the place. Other times it is normal.Zero power. Not driveable at all. It is clearly related to the pothole incident, but I cannot imagine how. Here is what I have done so far:
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Somehow 'carbon track' seems to come to my mind or damaged ignition wire (although they don't usually cause a "bad" vibration). An ignition scope might help here.
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Interesting, have you verified the crank damper is not coming apart or has shifted?
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I agree with comment about outer ring of damper slipping especially since you have a problem setting the timing.
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Originally Posted by JF in MI
(Post 1607101999)
Somehow 'carbon track' seems to come to my mind or damaged ignition wire (although they don't usually cause a "bad" vibration). An ignition scope might help here.
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Originally Posted by Chalie M
(Post 1607102020)
Interesting, have you verified the crank damper is not coming apart or has shifted?
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Originally Posted by MelWff
(Post 1607102042)
I agree with comment about outer ring of damper slipping especially since you have a problem setting the timing.
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Have you looked at the distributor cap? I wonder if the impact damaged it or the rotor.
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You covered several things, but you didn't mention the coil. Is it secure, have you tested it? Have you checked the float setting on the carb? Also you mention, "as son as I put a load on it" it starts bucking. I'm wondering about the physical and electrical condition. Any thoughts from anyone? :cheers: Dennis
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Originally Posted by Duck916
(Post 1607102222)
Have you looked at the distributor cap? I wonder if the impact damaged it or the rotor.
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Originally Posted by Bluestripe67
(Post 1607102237)
You covered several things, but you didn't mention the coil. Is it secure, have you tested it? Have you checked the float setting on the carb? Also you mention, "as son as I put a load on it" it starts bucking. I'm wondering about the physical and electrical condition. Any thoughts from anyone? :cheers: Dennis
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Verify the firing order, no crossed plug wires.
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I don't see in your list that you rechecked the timing. Distributor could have jumped a bit with the jolt.
Swap a different coil in if you have one. Vacuum leak? Tom |
Originally Posted by RED340COUPE
(Post 1607102373)
Verify the firing order, no crossed plug wires.
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Originally Posted by thoyer
(Post 1607102384)
I don't see in your list that you rechecked the timing. Distributor could have jumped a bit with the jolt.
Swap a different coil in if you have one. Vacuum leak? Tom |
Start it in a very dark place. Check for arcing. Use a spray bottle of water if necessary.
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Miles on engine since rebuilding? Age of timing chain? Sudden snapping the gas pedal caused by severe jolt to car caused timing chain to jump one tooth?
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Originally Posted by dmtparker
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The coil is solidly mounted and looks ok. How would I test it?
:cheers: Dennis |
i would believe the coil is a problem, but i would check the small wiring for the MSD from the dist to the coil and ign box (when i say check, i mean check the polarity of of the wiring, i have seen MSD connect things in thier harness backwards. tom
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Originally Posted by paw
(Post 1607102502)
i would believe the coil is a problem, but i would check the small wiring for the MSD from the dist to the coil and ign box (when i say check, i mean check the polarity of of the wiring, i have seen MSD connect things in thier harness backwards. tom
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